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    Player Burrmanchu's Avatar
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    How are you coming to the conclusion that because Earth MAP doesn't add damage to Elemental Fist, that PIE doesn't effect stun, bind, or DoT even tho it increases enfeebling? Or am I not understanding your post? Magic accuracy only increases the chance of landing and not being resisted iirc. Not sure on exacts specs for enfeebling, but since enhancing effects the amount of regen per tic, or potency of stoneskin, I'd imagine enfeebs work the same for DoT etc...
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    Oh that is not true. We tested it on higher mobs, one of us INT Mind only, the other INt Piety, and I did more substained damage, and was not resisted , when all is into INt and mind, damage is reduced becuase you become resisted and have no magic penetration to work with. Piety actually helps in battles where thunder or ice is normal a weak element against the mob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazaran View Post
    Oh that is not true. We tested it on higher mobs, one of us INT Mind only, the other INt Piety, and I did more substained damage, and was not resisted , when all is into INt and mind, damage is reduced becuase you become resisted and have no magic penetration to work with. Piety actually helps in battles where thunder or ice is normal a weak element against the mob.
    I'm not really getting what you are saying. how does PIE help with (damage) spells not getting resisted when it is MND that actually adds magic accuracy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    how does PIE help with (damage) spells not getting resisted when it is MND that actually adds magic accuracy?
    I'm hungry for his explanation... Anxious. Expectant. Eager. Avid.

    PS. What's "magic penetration" on Final Fantasy XIV? o.o
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    Last edited by Umo; 04-24-2012 at 08:10 AM.
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    Crit + gear effect came out to roughly 30 "+ crit" required to see a +1% increase in your actual rate when tested on R45 mobs in a 9000+ trial test Seiken and I performed. This was tested on melee swings, but we then performed a less rigorous test that seemed to show magic and physical crits follow similar patterns and formulas.

    Given this, if you maxed out say a ~120 crit build, this would only give you a 4% true increase in your natural crit rate. This is assuming the per-point increase doesn't scale down as you increase dLVL.
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    It was an attempt at sarcasm. I know exactly what it does. It just doesn't server any real purpose for what we do now.
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    I dunno, I like to use what little we have in the way of Enfeebles
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    So BLM should gear for PIE as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    So BLM should gear for PIE as well?
    Some piety not all piety that was the misunderstanding. Helpful in certain runs and lower level, less when upper level or where enfeebling plays no role.

    There is a reason restatting is given.
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    Must have been penetrating very hard and deep with your... Magic.
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