How many years do you think FFXIV has left?

[CookiesNCreams]

I feel like this game is at the same point as FFXI in 2006, when Treasures of Aht Urghan came out. That was the last expansion I played in FFXI, and a lot of people I know quit around that time.

SE may come out with another expansion in 2021, but by then, the next gen consoles will be out, so I think it will be tough to draw attention for an older game with PS3 era graphics.

I really hope a brand new MMO is in the works.

Wasn’t there an article somewhere about Yoshida working on a new project? Maybe it’s a new mmo? If it is, I hope they add what everyone was hoping for!

[Sagittarii]

Wasn’t there an article somewhere about Yoshida working on a new project? Maybe it’s a new mmo? If it is, I hope they add what everyone was hoping for!

Yep. Back in 2016 there was an article that Yoshida's group started work on a new project. I hope it's Final Fantasy Online 3.

[CookiesNCreams]

Yep. Back in 2016 there was an article that Yoshida's group started work on a new project. I hope it's Final Fantasy Online 3.

Guess I better look at getting a 2080ti....lol! I bet the graphics will look really good. When do you think they will announce and release it? I think if it’s true, it’ll be announced in 2 years, and released in 4. :P

[Barraind]

Longer than it should.

The other current games with its playstyle is WoW and WoW classic.

Its not going to bleed off people to anything EQ is doing, or any of the CoH servers. Its not going to have a significant population decline to ESO, BDO or GW2, each for a variety of reasons.

The next major release "should" be Pantheon (it could very well not be). Legends of Aria is probably going to die before it launches at this rate. Crowfall had potential until it went full "pay to prepreprepre-alpha" cash shop overload. the other slated "MMO's" for 2019-2021 arent a similar style.

At this point unless 14 shoots itself in the foot and head simultaneously, its not going to have a solid competitor for another full expansion cycle unless Wow pulls its head out of its butt.

The upside to this, if you really like the way 14 does things right now, look forward to 4 more years of it.

If you prefer innovation, pray someone has been doing something in secret for a couple years and launches at some point in 2020.

[Seraph522]

According to recent census numbers (which are admittedly not 100% accurate, as they're done using unofficial means and SE doesn't release actual subscriber numbers), the game has more concurrent subscribers than it ever has before, even in the leadup to an expansion. The negativity you see here on the forums and on some social media come from a combination of the people who have issues with the game tending to be the ones to actually speak up (you don't complain about something if you're enjoying it most of the time) and general human negativity bias (we notice the negative more than the positive for a number of reasons) and are not necessarily representative of everyone playing the game. FFXIV is in a pretty healthy spot right now, even if it isn't perfect, and unless something radically changes it'll probably be around for a while.

[Shurrikhan]

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What's with this whole false dilemma that if one has any criticism about something then they must feel negatively towards it on the whole?

Whatever happened to, 'Hey, people more invested in something are more likely to speak up about it?'

[Seraph522]

What's with this whole false dilemma that if one has any criticism about something then they must feel negatively towards it on the whole?

Whatever happened to, 'Hey, people more invested in something are more likely to speak up about it?'

If that's what came across in my post, it wasn't my intent; my general remark is that if you feel something's off with the game and want it fixed, you're more likely to speak up than when you're content with the game based on investment, which is what you're expressing. The effect tends to be that negative posts crop up more than positive ones, and that plus natural human negativity bias (not that we trend negative but that negative topics tend to stand out to us more, thus the issues of outrage clickbait as an example) tends to create the picture that more people hate the game than is actually the case. The poster's perception is that the game is in a bad state because there are a lot of threads that tend to be negative, but that doesn't necessarily indicate that everyone hates the game or that it's failing (though it also doesn't mean that it's doing great either; depends on context). I'm well aware that plenty of people enjoy the game as a whole but want specific parts to be changed - it's just that the general effect due to the way forums work can be the incorrect assumption that everyone hates the game.

[Amnmaat]

World of Warcraft is still going. I'd like XIV to last another 10 years minimum.

[rance-sama]

Forever and ever.

[Listrella]

I don't want to think about it, I just want to enjoy the game while it's still around and frequently being updated, it'll die eventually but there's no reason to worry about it right now.