BRAVE FC Letter to FFXIV (Security system glitch)

[iMustafa18]

We understand that, for now. But we are concerned about an option available in the game but we can't use it really. To us, for anyone who joins and see an amount of gils they can tell that this FC actually works as a team and has different goals and interesting aspects to play the game unlike many others they don't. It is really hard to maintain that during such possible issues to happen all of a sudden unfortunately and we are really looking and trying for a cooperation to resolve all that and fix the system for future experiences.

[Yshnal]

We reported this ages ago, and it hasn't been fixed yet. At this point I doubt that they'll get to it, and I want to think that it's due to a good reason and not just because they haven't bothered to do it. I mean, it makes absolutely no sense that anyone can promote any character beyond their own rank, when I think that it should always be limited to a max of their own rank-1.

[iMustafa18]

tbh, it is pretty much given that anyone should not be able to promote above their own rank, we sat down and calculated our security carefully but unfortunately to say that the system failed us. If it was in our fault we would take the loss and live with it, but in such a scenario we really think that the developers should stand up for an action.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

tbh, it is pretty much given that anyone should not be able to promote above their own rank, we sat down and calculated our security carefully but unfortunately to say that the system failed us. If it was in our fault we would take the loss and live with it, but in such a scenario we really think that the developers should stand up for an action.

Did you ever test it? To my knowledge the system doesn't say you can't promote above your rank. It just says ability to promote or demote. It's been a known thing for close to 6 years now that you can promote to any rank.

[iMustafa18]

Did you ever test it? To my knowledge the system doesn't say you can't promote above your rank. It just says ability to promote or demote. It's been a known thing for close to 6 years now that you can promote to any rank.

We did test it, but only after the issue. we were really unaware of it beforehand. To us, or me personally it makes complete sense that anyone automatically should be unable to promote above their rank. Sorry to sound this silly, but i can't imagine myself promoting my supervisor at work to kick our general manager from the company, then we put the company owner into a position where they can't do anything bout it.

[Nedkel]

I would like to know how your friend got his account hacked.

[Canadane]

This isn't broken, it's just a misunderstand about how FC ranks works.
There's only two FC ranks. Master and not-master. You can divvy up privileges among different ranks but if you give one promotion or demotion allowance, they can go above and below their number designation, because to anyone who isn't the FC master, they are equals.
Again, while it's caused problems, the system is working as intended.

As for you getting hacked, be wary of suspicious twitch streams I guess. It's apparently becoming much more common, a friend of mine who I thought was a lot more smart about these things had it happen to him and his FC last week. Something like 40 million gil gone in a drunken stupor. The problem with the way these work is that even a one-time password authentication can't stop them. You're putting your info, OTP included, into a not-SE website, which just automatically attempts the info into the game client on the hackers computer. And after that it's too late.
At least, that's going to be my educated guess in how that all happened due to the severity of the number of issues these Twitch streams with fake links have been popping up more recently.

[Avidria]

This isn't broken, it's just a misunderstand about how FC ranks works.
There's only two FC ranks. Master and not-master. You can divvy up privileges among different ranks but if you give one promotion or demotion allowance, they can go above and below their number designation, because to anyone who isn't the FC master, they are equals.
Again, while it's caused problems, the system is working as intended.

Wow. That's a pretty darn silly way to have the ranks set up in system where permissions are assigned by rank. WTH?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Wow. That's a pretty darn silly way to have the ranks set up in system where permissions are assigned by rank. WTH?

Honestly, the ranks work fine. Just don't give people the ability to change ranks, outside of like, 1 other person. My FC is pretty much only made up of RL friends, and we only have 2 people with rank promotion privileges, me and the master. Only 4 of us can withdraw gil. me, the master, her husband, and another friend. Only 2 of us can relocate the house.

Its not so much paranoia as it is precaution and being smart. We don't have a reason to relocate, so no one can. We don't have much gil in the chest, but few can access it. Accidents can happen even with friends, so we are careful.