I've kicked players for wearing the wrong gear!

[JackHatchet]

Yeah yeah, I know that's a loaded header, but hear me out!

I wish Square-Enix would put class restrictions on accessories like they do with the rest of the gear.

I can't tell you guys how many times I'll get into a group with a caster wearing a mix-match of DEX/STR rings and other accessories that don't offer them any use to their class. And to top it all off, literally every-time I've ever mentioned this to someone--the response is always extreme hostility or extreme arrogance.

I'm totally cool with new players who don't know better making mistakes and then willing to learn and improve. That's great, they get a pass, because they're trying! I'd never kick someone for trying.

But man, I ask some folks why they're using a strength ring on their blackmage, and they say it increases their hit chance. I tell them that's not right. And they blow up on me. Those are the people I kick. And I do it way too often for it to just be a fluke. Like once a week often.

Is there a way we can fix this?

[Wiccan026]

Are you talking about below fifty or above fifty.

If it's below fifty than from where I stand, that's just silly. I have played every job in leveling dungeons on the way to fifty with the best jewelry (and sometimes not even as good) being the stuff that you start the game with... because I wasn't going to waste gil or time to get jewelry for classes on the way to fifty when it's unnecessary.

You can manage to do your job in the leveling dungeons and "get through it"... also some times people don't know (I actually had a friend think fifty below caster gear was what they should be wearing since they wanted higher magic defense even though they weren't a DoM). Even if you encounter that teaching and not kicking is always the best thing.

[JackHatchet]

(Edit) I also give a pass to people who switch jobs and KNOW better, but that's just the best they have. For example. Someone switching to a lvl 50ish WHM, and only having the healer Ironworks ring and maybe the tank one. These people know, and are just improvising with what they got. I can understand that.

It's just the massive amount of people who literally believe that they need DEX or STR on a SMN, or need all DEX on their tank. Drives me nuts. Like why do people believe this stuff!

[DumdogsWorld]

The only non-DRG-specific main stat I wish I had a lot more of is VIT.

You can never have too much VIT.

[JackHatchet]

Are you talking about below fifty or above fifty.

If it's below fifty than from where I stand, that's just silly. I have played every job in leveling dungeons on the way to fifty with the best jewelry (and sometimes not even as good) being the stuff that you start the game with... because I wasn't going to waste gil or time to get jewelry for classes on the way to fifty when it's unnecessary.

You can manage to do your job in the leveling dungeons and "get through it"... also some times people don't know (I actually had a friend think fifty below caster gear was what they should be wearing since they wanted higher magic defense even though they weren't a DoM). Even if you encounter that teaching and not kicking is always the best thing.

I'm talking like at 70 most of the time. I see it the most in the lvl 70 24 man content. Then probably the 50-60 roulettes (with the ironworks/shire gear), but that's usually not an ignorance thing.

But the vast amount of people I argue with are lvl 70. Which is why I bother to bring it up. You're right, it's silly to get hardcore on a pre-level 50 player. I honestly let those folks live and learn on their own. No reason to rush it--just as long as they get it eventually, right? lol

[Nedkel]

Yeah! That will teach em!

That 2% dps less they do, i dont want that either!

[VillainQueen]

That sounds like you are abusing the kick feature. Let them have wrong gear what does it matter to you as long as they are not that undergeared and you get through the content. It's not your job to tell them what to wear. Geez some people really have a problem with others doing things not their way. If they don't want to take your advice leave them be, it's not that hard. If they are rude or really drag the party down than it's okay to kick everything else is kinda toxic.

[DumdogsWorld]

Also, how do people even manage to do this? I know you can equip, for example, HW tank gear as a DPS. However, once you get to level 70 gear, it seems to be all locked to classes/jobs that actually use whatever the main stat is. As a DRG, I couldn't equip a level 70 non-DRG piece even if I wanted to.

[Baalfrog]

coddling and encouraging playing wrong

I mean... If you enjoy running low level dungeons that take forever. Or worse, wipe over and over on some higher end content. Thats some extremely backwards thinking!

[JackHatchet]

I don't think purposely wearing the wrong gear should be considered a "playing it your own way."

Besides, it's not like they get kicked for just being ignorant. It's usually their toxic responses that lead to the rest of the party agreeing with it. For example, it could go something like this.

"Hey black mage, why are you wearing strength acessories?"

"They increase my hit chance."

"You know that's not true, right?"

-other party member comments-

"I don't care what you say, you're just lying!"

"Nah man, STR really doesn't do anything for your class."

"OMG, why won't you shut up already?"

-Initiates kick- -kick passes-
-Gets a new dps-

That's normally the short of it.

(Other people generally chime in. Some positive. Some negative. But 99% of the time, the rest of the party is entirely supportive of my approach, and the kick. So I don't think it's considered abuse).