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  1. #41
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Yes I know about it ALL I was there it was still the complaining about it
    Not sure what you mean by I was there "it was still the complaining about it". Like no one can ask for something to get better? I know some people said the game would end without it getting better (lol oh boy) but there is a difference from asking for a change and being hyperbolic of course (but not everyone was the same person lol).

    I do wish I was a bit nicer about it though (if I had wrote that thread today I'd say only once I thought it looked not good, and not repeat it as that was unnecessary- young and excited for ARR maybe?), but I do think it was an important change to greatly improve the environment appearance (the changes to patterns to make them more natural and the shadow patch they added being some of the best changes they made, helped blend the plants a lot better).

    Also I think what we ended up with is pretty good and much better than where we started on that, no idea if the thread influenced that but I'm glad it didn't stay the same because like pixels on gear I constantly noticed the pixels on the plants (since you didn't need your camera next to them to see it, even zoomed out it was obvious).

    I've always been shocked on people's response on that, obvious most frequently repeated pixel object everywhere and you ask to have it toned down and everyone loses their minds lol . Actually had someone wish me physical harm, someone attempting to ban the thread, and a few one to two word swear word posts. I never said the game will die or it has to be fixed "today" and the subject is an object that is in the foreground and highly repeated (not something you have to try to see), so I shouldn't be lumped in with people who did ask for a change hyperbolic-ly.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 06-20-2019 at 01:07 AM.

  2. #42
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    MrKusakabe's Avatar
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    Zedek Kusakabe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vereleisk View Post
    8GB VRAM is NOT mainstream.
    I work as technician, selling parts and upgrading computers, and not everyone has a 500$+ CAD budget to put into a graphic card.
    Almost 75% of the GPU and/or computers we sell for gamers either has something similar to a GTX1050/1060 which have 2, 3, 4 or 6GB depending on the model you choose.
    Maybe YOUR reality is that everyone has 1200-2500$ to put into a gaming PC, while according to Steam stats, a GTX1070/RTX2070 (8GB) is mostly under 10% of the user base.

    That being said, an optional high-res pack? Sure, i'd even pay to have it!
    BUT we should not force people who have average computers (or use their laptop on the road to do dailies and casual content) suddenly be unable to play their favorite game.
    Well, you work in a very weird store or are not as experienced as you might think. A quick check on an ASUS GTX1060 with 6 GByte of VRAM resulted in several 180€ ($200) pricetags, or an Sapphire RX 580 wth 8 GByte of VRAM for a mere 171€ ... I know the difference of simple VRAM and GPU power are important, but you could set up to 1080p @ 60fps with maximum texture settings with the graphic cards I just mentioned and still would have more than half of VRAM empty.



    ARR ran fine on my GTX670 @ 1080p and it looked very good (not sure if I used High settings back then as the game advanced, we can't compare 1:1 anymore, but it was very good-looking!). And that was a 2012/13 graphics card.


    Also, Steam, isn't it that place where people buy nothing if it's not for 8€? (i.e. "Don't buy [Game] for 30€!!! Wait until it's in sale!!") Of course these cheapskates there do not invest into according hardware and are happy with Newground-like Flash games and Indie Games of that sort... If you can afford monthly subscription fees for this AAA MMORPG, I am sure your hardware might be suitable for games better than Tetris

    The game, right now, is not even remotely to take up to even the lowest budget graphic card's VRAM, and it often shows, e.g. when old (or stretched?) textures - the carpet - mix into a fairly good-looking scene:



    This scene runs on maximum details in everything at 1440p on my GTX1080 in Stormblood (not ARR content). And it just takes about 3 GByte of Video RAM - if you run older hardware, you have to go down to 1080p/720p anyways, and you won't notice those textures -- if you have a budget graphics card, you will turn down some settings anyways. It's just funky you would buy/use a graphic card with 2 GByte of VRAM and then want to crank up everything.


    Unfortunately, for people that can afford it, we are basically stuck because people can't shell out $150 or the console support. And the weakest link should never be the goal...


    I am not a graphics fetishist at all (my favourite game: MS-DOS DooM in 320x200x256) but this odd mix of new and old (even my Papalymo hairstyle is low-res from 1.0) makes it stand out more.

    Sincerely,



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    Last edited by MrKusakabe; 06-20-2019 at 03:09 AM.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhus View Post
    Maybe the op is Super_Bee_Brian in disguise. Fun times
    We've had a spammy Roe lurking in the forums for weeks setting off controversial topics, and now someone (else) thinks of that guy?

    Not that I can be certain, and I stopped reading his (recent guy's) topics. Maybe he got called out after all. But the posting pattern was certainly the same.
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  4. #44
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    This topic is a disgrace to all Roegakind.
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  5. #45
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    Kai Rangriz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akonyl View Post
    Check out this triangle in the Azim Steppes:



    This game is literally unplayable. I saw this triangle and immediately uninstalled and created a voodoo doll of Yoshi P.
    I... have never seen this before WOW
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Addy View Post
    It's not about the content these days...it's all about the graphics. *rolls eyes*
    Everytime I see a thread about graphics and I see some of the shots people post. I wonder if they are just spending their time zoomed in on their character or the enviroment looking at stuff up close.
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    Note: Taking advice from a players alt, is like taking advice from a voice in a dark room. Criticism is a two way street remember that!!

  7. #47
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    What am I looking at? I can't even tell what that is. It's some rocks?
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  8. #48
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    I remember the complaints about Hien's outfit when it was released.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevonEllwood View Post
    What am I looking at? I can't even tell what that is. It's some rocks?
    Because it has holes I thought it was supposed to be LoD tree textures, reminds me of the ones that were sometimes bugged in Dark Souls:

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  10. #50
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    Camille Blythe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Even SNES has better texture than that

    South Shroud 32, 25
    That's not what I remember.

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