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  1. #331
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    Rivxkobe's Avatar
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    Carmine Altair
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    This game has always been easy though.
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    Level 80: SAM | SCH | PLD | DNC

    Leveling: AST | WAR | MCH

  2. #332
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    Atlas-04's Avatar
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    Atlyss Sol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitori View Post
    I, myself, will probably buckle and get the expansion, but I will 100% be playing Classic in Aug. and Pantheon whenever that comes out.
    I'm sorry but the idea that WoW Classic is hard is laughable. Tedious and time consuming does not mean hard. The raids and dungeons were devoid of any real mechanics compared to today and every class had about a 2 to 3 button "rotation". The only difficult thing is how time consuming that game is for no real reward. You can't login for an hour or two and make big progress. Travel time is insane and mounts are too expensive for your average player at level 40. You will spend a majority of your time auto running between places, eating food between single monsters, and afk on flight paths.

    That game is pure nostalgia. My dumb kid self played it and got to raiding just fine. I respect it for what it was back then but I would never want to go back.
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    Last edited by Atlas-04; 06-25-2019 at 12:50 AM.

  3. #333
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Now that's not to say the game shouldn't have "interesting" language like port and starboard. But using ridiculously outdated vocabulary wasn't a good design decision.
    Things I have never been on: A boat.

    Places I have heard starboard: Anything referring to boats in a historical sense. Most every sci fi TV series involving ships of the sea or space variety. Most every TV show set in ye olde times. Law and Order. Pirates of the Caribbean. Literally everywhere.

    Places I have heard larboard: ff14.

    Number of times it took to realize larboard means the opposite of starboard: 1.
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  4. #334
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Things I have never been on: A boat.

    Places I have heard starboard: Anything referring to boats in a historical sense. Most every sci fi TV series involving ships of the sea or space variety. Most every TV show set in ye olde times. Law and Order. Pirates of the Caribbean. Literally everywhere.

    Places I have heard larboard: ff14.

    Number of times it took to realize larboard means the opposite of starboard: 1.
    Yeah, same.

    I don't really know why people are having such difficulty with it. Maybe it's the flipping that throws them off? But I find that that makes it EASIER for me. If its the same? Move to the other side. Is it the other one? Stay where you are.

    The hardest part of it for me is if I'm not paying attention and notice it too late, but that goes for everything in this game.
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    Level 80: SAM | SCH | PLD | DNC

    Leveling: AST | WAR | MCH

  5. #335
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    Alestorm's Avatar
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    Oraina Fhey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    I'm sorry but the idea that WoW Classic is hard is laughable. Tedious and time consuming does not mean hard. The raids and dungeons were devoid of any real mechanics compared to today and every class had about a 2 to 3 button "rotation". The only difficult thing is how time consuming that game is for no real reward. You can't login for an hour or two and make big progress. Travel time is insane and mounts are too expensive for your average player at level 40. You will spend a majority of your time auto running between places, eating food between single monsters, and afk on flight paths.

    That game is pure nostalgia. My dumb kid self played it and got to raiding just fine. I respect it for what it was back then but I would never want to go back.
    That will be the real fun: watching all the people lose their minds when they realize it really wasn't that difficult. Just because a boss hits harder doesn't mean the content is more difficult.
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  6. #336
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    Melichoir's Avatar
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Things I have never been on: A boat.

    Places I have heard starboard: Anything referring to boats in a historical sense. Most every sci fi TV series involving ships of the sea or space variety. Most every TV show set in ye olde times. Law and Order. Pirates of the Caribbean. Literally everywhere.

    Places I have heard larboard: ff14.

    Number of times it took to realize larboard means the opposite of starboard: 1.
    The odd thing about that complaint is that the game has bosses that literally have names for their attacks, and knowing those names allow you to dodge appropriately. Larboard/Starboard couldve been called Bacon/Eggs and youd still have to learn what they mean for the attack, just like other bosses. Immediate example: Rams Voice, Dragon's Voice from the lvl 38 Chimera in Cutters Cry.
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  7. #337
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    Kyssa Shay
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    FFXIV is easier than WoW, even though the mechanics for some bosses are far more complex than what WoW offers. I like the complexity of the fights we have. WoW just adds a zero to the damage output and then boasts that it's harder.
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  8. #338
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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    And Cata's downfall wasn't its changes, although they may have helped push certain players off certain specs (while others only became more engrossed with their favorites). Its downfall was its content and clear lack of polish.
    Speaking from my own personal experience, 90% of my guild quit because Cata Heroic dungeons were harder than WotLK raids and the gear rewards for those super hard dungeons were disproportionate to the difficulty involved. On top of that, starter Cata raids were on par with WotLK hard modes. The leap in difficulty was simply insane. I stuck it out and eventually cleared all the Heroic raids in Cata, but I was completely burned out by the end of that expansion. It felt to me like the community never recovered. WoW went from being a relaxing game that I played at the end of my work day to being a second job. Successful raiding guilds became mini-corporations, complete with job interviews, performance quotas, and difficult hiring/firing decisions. That doesn't make for a compelling game. I want to have fun with my friends in a game, not raid successfully with my co-workers.

    They tried to overcorrect by adding LFR "for the casuals," but 25-man content simply isn't conducive to building bonds between guild-mates. The current Mythic+ system suffers from the same problems that plagued Cata: the timer requires that you exclude under-performers. You can't play with who you want. Instead, you have to find the best co-workers available to you and work with them. Again, I want to play a game at the end of my work day, not maintain a second job.
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    Last edited by Ronduwil; 06-25-2019 at 05:34 AM.

  9. #339
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    It is true that most of the game isn't very hard, but then a large majority of players do not want a very hard game.
    For those who do want a challenge, there is always the Savage and Ultimate fights - that's why they exist.
    I couldn't have said it better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Speaking from my own personal experience, 99% of my guild quit because Cata Heroic dungeons were harder than WotLK raids and the gear rewards for those super hard dungeons were disproportionate to the difficulty involved. On top of that, starter Cata raids were on par with WotLK hard modes. The leap in difficulty was simply insane.
    I remember that so frick'n well, i had to get back into the habit of creating different types of Mob/boss pull macros again in Cataclysm because Wraith of the Lich King had very much eliminated and scaled down so much in contrast to TBC.
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    Last edited by Neoyoshi; 06-25-2019 at 05:21 AM.


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  10. #340
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    I don't really know why people are having such difficulty with it. Maybe it's the flipping that throws them off? But I find that that makes it EASIER for me. If its the same? Move to the other side. Is it the other one? Stay where you are.

    The difficulty comes from how similar the words look at a quick glance. I really don't know why THAT is so difficult for some people to figure out.
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