Going to the same route as WoW. The game is TOO easy

[Aurelius2625]

Are some people seriously so dense as to not TURN THEIR CAMERA AROUND so that it's the party's view of the boss? I do this all the time, so that Left is truly left, and right is right. You can still execute all skills, abilities, move, etc... just fine because you can run through the boss. It doesn't matter what your character's actual position is, just as long as they are in the right position i.e. tank is opposite of party. In Tsukuyomi, this is a god send. I can't believe this isn't something natural.

[Fynlar]

How about if you get hit with it, you make a note of what hit you, when, and what it was called? Like, look at the castbar... "Ah shit, Larboard? What's that?" you get hit by standing left. "oh, it hits on the left side of the boss, since my buddies on the right side are okay, Guess I have to stand to the right of the boss when he does Larboard, neat". Problem solved. That's what blind progging is. How do you think people MAKE guides? They get hit with things they have no idea what they are, make a note of what they do, read debuffs, and make a note to change things until the sequence is done right. That's how learning happens. So if someone still doesn't know a mechanic and what it does theoretically after like, four times... I gotta question their ability to reason.

Some people have more difficulty staying on top of that and knowing whether to left/right than others. You can blame it on their "ability to reason" or spatial awareness or whatever you like.

But all that wasn't my point anyway. All I was saying is that the ground telegraph is pretty much useless when it's only there for a fraction of a second.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Some people have more difficulty staying on top of that and knowing whether to left/right than others. You can blame it on their "ability to reason" or spatial awareness or whatever you like.

But all that wasn't my point anyway. All I was saying is that the ground telegraph is pretty much useless when it's only there for a fraction of a second.

Its a halfway point between "too much warning" and "no aoe marker a la savage"

What they are trying to do is work in harder tells, making people pay attention to the moves themselves rather than the glowy orange don't stand here thing.

[Aurelius2625]

But it's...not though?

If Larboard cast finishes, and a thing flashes on the left and you get hit... you know that after that, if Larboard is charging up, something is going to hit on the...left? Where the giant orange cleave was? It's not useless because it tells you where the attack hit and how big the attack was, so that NEXT time, you can dodge it.

[Fynlar]

But it's...not though?

If Larboard cast finishes, and a thing flashes on the left and you get hit... you know that after that, if Larboard is charging up, something is going to hit on the...left? Where the giant orange cleave was? It's not useless because it tells you where the attack hit and how big the attack was, so that NEXT time, you can dodge it.

There is a big laser and an explosion in the area that was hit. It's kinda obvious at that point where the attack hit. No fake "telegraph" needed.

Its a halfway point between "too much warning" and "no aoe marker a la savage"

What they are trying to do is work in harder tells, making people pay attention to the moves themselves rather than the glowy orange don't stand here thing.

Then the glowy orange things should just not be there at all. Don't make people think they can watch out for telegraphs that aren't really telegraphs.

It isn't really a "in between" thing; it basically is the same as savage.

[Mistyregions]

There is a big laser and an explosion in the area that was hit. It's kinda obvious at that point where the attack hit. No fake "telegraph" needed.

Then the glowy orange things should just not be there at all. Don't make people think they can watch out for telegraphs that aren't really telegraphs.

It isn't really a "in between" thing; it basically is the same as savage.

It's not so much a fake telegraph, its showing you a area it's going to effect. So next time you see "larboard" you know bow big the area of effect is. If the just did "larboard" and things exploded no one would know the area that is exploding it not ment to be a warning marker after you figure the mechanic out the first time. I repeat it is for people doing it blind progression. After that you watch the cast bar and move accordingly, period there is no room for interpretation.

This really is just a discussion on who has reasoning and critical thinking skills. Some don't, some do.

Some don't pull out when they should, some wear condoms. It's all relative to the type of people who play. Aka some are mentally hindered.

[Fynlar]

It's not so much a fake telegraph, its showing you a area it's going to effect. So next time you see "larboard" you know bow big the area of effect is.

Again (sigh), you can pretty much see the affected area when the attack is being executed. It's rather hard to miss Omega's laser and the ensuing explosion, and the fact that anyone that was in it and did not move out of it before the charge bar filled just took a big hit and a vuln stack.

Therefore the fake telegraph is not needed, and is presumably only meant to get people who somehow don't realize this to try to sound all smart saying "see look guys, normal mode even gives you a telegraph; see how much easier this mechanic is compared to savage??"

[Nariel]

Again (sigh), you can pretty much see the affected area when the attack is being executed. It's rather hard to miss Omega's laser and the ensuing explosion, and the fact that anyone that was in it and did not move out of it before the charge bar filled just took a big hit and a vuln stack.

Therefore the fake telegraph is not needed, and is presumably only meant to get people who somehow don't realize this to try to sound all smart saying "see look guys, normal mode even gives you a telegraph; see how much easier this mechanic is compared to savage??"

I'd agree if estimating an area of effect with only the animation shown was actualy accurate, cause its not and I'm not even talking about serveur latency.

There's a huge difference for some jobs between moving two step on the left and running 20 meters to safety "to be sure".

[Driavna]

How is this Omega thingy a big deal? I mean, I understand the confusion/surprise the first time around, but after that? They are just words, you can mentally assign them whatever meaning you want.

[Seraphor]

Maybe it’s just me, but I find there’s definitely something about Starboard/Larboard that’s more difficult to reconcile mentally.
Tsukiyomi’s Bright/Dark blade went in far easier, thanks to Bright=Right, and now I automatically, reflexively recognise Dark as Left.
But this hasn’t happened for me with Larboard, I still need to consciously think “L for Left” instead of it being a reflex. Or Lardboard=Port, because I believe Port and Starboard would make far more sense to me personally.
It’s probably the length of the word. Left/Dark/Port are all 4 letter words, while Right/Bright/Starboard stand out as longer words. It’s much easier to take a mental snapshot of an entire word, than it is to pick out one letter in it.