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  1. #151
    Player
    Josephina's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Posts
    10
    Character
    O'ndanya Josephina
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Anbieter:Telekom 50Mbit
    3.7.2019 Starke Lags
    Zeit: 21:27
    Code:
    Tracing route to neolobby07.ffxiv.com [195.82.50.10]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    0 xxxxx [xxxxxx]
    1 Speedport.ip [xxxxx]
    2 62.155.241.122
    3 217.5.118.26
    4 80.156.160.126
    5 GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
    6 80.95.144.23
    7 195.82.60.45
    8 195.82.60.29
    9 195.82.61.14
    10 195.82.50.234
    11 195.82.50.10

    Computing statistics for 275 seconds...
    Source to Here This Node/Link
    Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
    0 xxxxxx [xxxxx]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% Speedport.ip [xxxxx]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    2 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 62.155.241.122
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    3 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 217.5.118.26
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    4 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 80.156.160.126
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 31ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    6 28ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 80.95.144.23
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    7 28ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.60.45
    4/ 100 = 4% |
    8 74ms 11/ 100 = 11% 7/ 100 = 7% 195.82.60.29
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    9 72ms 11/ 100 = 11% 7/ 100 = 7% 195.82.61.14
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    10 108ms 8/ 100 = 8% 4/ 100 = 4% 195.82.50.234
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    11 69ms 4/ 100 = 4% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.50.10


    Zeit 22:20
    Tracing route to neolobby07.ffxiv.com [195.82.50.10]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    0 xxxxx [xxxxx]
    1 Speedport.ip [xxxxx]
    2 62.155.241.122
    3 217.5.118.26
    4 80.156.160.126
    5 GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
    6 80.95.144.23
    7 195.82.60.45
    8 195.82.60.29
    9 195.82.61.14
    10 195.82.50.234
    11 * 195.82.50.10

    Computing statistics for 275 seconds...
    Source to Here This Node/Link
    Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
    0 xxxxx [xxxxx]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% Speedport.ip [xxxx]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    2 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 62.155.241.122
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    3 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 217.5.118.26
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    4 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 80.156.160.126
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 27ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    6 28ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 80.95.144.23
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    7 27ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.60.45
    1/ 100 = 1% |
    8 78ms 4/ 100 = 4% 3/ 100 = 3% 195.82.60.29
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    9 70ms 4/ 100 = 4% 3/ 100 = 3% 195.82.61.14
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    10 91ms 5/ 100 = 5% 4/ 100 = 4% 195.82.50.234
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    11 66ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.50.10
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    Last edited by Josephina; 07-04-2019 at 05:25 AM.

  2. #152
    Player
    Sanakan_Forgeheart's Avatar
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    7
    Character
    Sanakan Forgeheart
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    selbes problem wie alle andern, den tracert log posten spar ich mir, bin auch bei telekom.....
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  3. #153
    Player
    Josephina's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Posts
    10
    Character
    O'ndanya Josephina
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Anbieter:Telekom 50Mbit
    4.7.2019 Hab heute wieder schlimme lags
    Zeit: 20:24
    Code:
    Tracing route to neolobby07.ffxiv.com [195.82.50.10]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    0 xxxxxx [xxxxxx]
    1 xxxxx [xxxxx]
    2 62.155.241.122
    3 217.5.118.26
    4 80.156.160.126
    5 GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
    6 80.95.144.23
    7 195.82.60.45
    8 195.82.60.29
    9 195.82.61.14
    10 195.82.50.234
    11 195.82.50.10

    Computing statistics for 275 seconds...
    Source to Here This Node/Link
    Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
    0 xxxxxxx [xxxxx]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% Speedport.ip [xxxxxx]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    2 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 62.155.241.122
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    3 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 217.5.118.26
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    4 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 80.156.160.126
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 43ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    6 39ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 80.95.144.23
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    7 37ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.60.45
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    8 81ms 4/ 100 = 4% 4/ 100 = 4% 195.82.60.29
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    9 80ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.61.14
    1/ 100 = 1% |
    10 104ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.50.234
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    11 74ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.50.10
    Die Hops die probleme machen gehören zu der Firma 'KDDI Deutschland GmbH' wenn ich das richtig sehe
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    Last edited by Josephina; 07-05-2019 at 04:11 AM.

  4. #154
    Player
    tobyx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    65
    Character
    Ianto Blackneren
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Josephina View Post
    Die Hops die probleme machen gehören zu der Firma 'KDDI Deutschland GmbH' wenn ich das richtig sehe

    Diese Firma (Mutter ist aus Japan) betreibt die Infrastruktur im Rechenzentrum in Frankfurt fuer Square Enix.
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  5. #155
    Player
    tobyx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    65
    Character
    Ianto Blackneren
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    ISP: Telekom (VVDSL 50, Berlin)
    Zeit: 06.07.2019 19:16 Uhr



    Selbe Probleme wie fast alle in diesem Topic. Diverse Lag Spikes in unterschiedlichem Content, sowohl im Crystarium, in Dungeons, in den Area bei FATEs, etc.



    Code:
    C:\Users\toby>pathping neolobby07.ffxiv.com
    
    Tracing route to neolobby07.ffxiv.com [195.82.50.10]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
      0  TOBYX-PC.fritz.box [192.168.188.37]
      1  fritz.box [192.168.188.1]
      2  62.155.240.151
      3  217.5.118.10
      4  80.156.160.126
      5  GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
      6  80.95.144.23
      7  195.82.60.45
      8  195.82.60.29
      9  195.82.61.14
     10  195.82.50.234
     11  195.82.50.10
    
    Computing statistics for 275 seconds...
                Source to Here   This Node/Link
    Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address
      0                                           TOBYX-PC.fritz.box [192.168.188.37]
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      1    1ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  fritz.box [192.168.188.1]
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      2  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  62.155.240.151
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      3  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  217.5.118.10
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      4  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  80.156.160.126
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      5   16ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      6   17ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  80.95.144.23
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      7   49ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.60.45
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      8   52ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.60.29
                                    1/ 100 =  1%   |
      9   18ms     1/ 100 =  1%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.61.14
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
     10  132ms     4/ 100 =  4%     3/ 100 =  3%  195.82.50.234
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
     11   45ms     1/ 100 =  1%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.50.10
    
    Trace complete.
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    Last edited by tobyx; 07-07-2019 at 03:12 AM.

  6. #156
    Player
    Yaccin's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    9
    Character
    Dawnson Blackneren
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Anbieter: Deutsche Telekom VVDSL 50

    Code:
    > pathping neolobby07.ffxiv.com
    
    Tracing route to neolobby07.ffxiv.com [195.82.50.10]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
      0  DESKTOP-MCSEK4F.fritz.box [192.168.188.47]
      1  192.168.188.1
      2  62.155.240.151
      3  217.5.118.10
      4  80.156.160.126
      5  GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
      6  80.95.144.23
      7  195.82.60.45
      8  195.82.60.29
      9  195.82.61.14
     10  195.82.50.234
     11  195.82.50.10
    
    Computing statistics for 275 seconds...
                Source to Here   This Node/Link
    Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address
      0                                           DESKTOP-MCSEK4F.fritz.box [192.168.188.47]
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      1    0ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  192.168.188.1
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      2  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  62.155.240.151
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      3  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  217.5.118.10
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      4  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  80.156.160.126
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      5   13ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      6   16ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  80.95.144.23
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      7   49ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.60.45
                                    1/ 100 =  1%   |
      8   55ms     1/ 100 =  1%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.60.29
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      9   17ms     2/ 100 =  2%     1/ 100 =  1%  195.82.61.14
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
     10  117ms     1/ 100 =  1%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.50.234
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
     11   46ms     1/ 100 =  1%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.50.10
    
    Trace complete.
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  7. #157
    Player
    OSR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Posts
    37
    Character
    Oli S'
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Telekom 150mbit
    07.07.2019 seit 12:30 Uhr

    Code:
    Your environment has been set up for using Node.js 8.12.0 (x64) and npm.
    
    C:\Users\no>pathping neolobby07.ffxiv.com
    
    Routenverfolgung zu "neolobby07.ffxiv.com" [195.82.50.10]
    über maximal 30 Hops:
      0  xxxxx [xxxxxx]
      1  xxxxxx
      2  xxxxxxx
      3  217.0.198.133
      4  217.0.198.133
      5  80.156.160.126
      6  gw-link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
      7  80.95.144.23
      8     *     195.82.60.45
      9  195.82.60.29
     10  195.82.61.14
     11  195.82.50.234
     12  195.82.50.10
    
    Berechnung der Statistiken dauert ca. 300 Sekunden...
                Quelle zum Abs.  Knoten/Verbindung
    Abs. Zeit   Verl./Ges.=   %  Verl./Ges.=   %  Adresse
      0                                           xxxxxxx [xxxxxx]
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      1    5ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  xxxxxxx
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      2  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  xxxxxxx
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      3   18ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  217.0.198.133
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      4   15ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  217.0.198.133
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      5  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  80.156.160.126
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      6   16ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  gw-link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      7   14ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  80.95.144.23
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      8   16ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.60.45
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      9   24ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.60.29
                                    2/ 100 =  2%   |
     10   19ms     2/ 100 =  2%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.61.14
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
     11   59ms    22/ 100 = 22%    20/ 100 = 20%  195.82.50.234
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
     12   51ms     2/ 100 =  2%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.50.10
    
    Ablaufverfolgung beendet.
    
    C:\Users\no>
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    Last edited by OSR; 07-24-2019 at 04:46 AM.

  8. #158
    Player
    Josephina's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Posts
    10
    Character
    O'ndanya Josephina
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Telekom 7.7.2019

    13:40 Das Game ist grad unspielbar für mich

    Code:
    Tracing route to neolobby07.ffxiv.com [195.82.50.10]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    0 xxxxxx [xxxxxx]
    1 Speedport.ip [xxxxxx]
    2 62.155.241.122
    3 217.5.118.26
    4 80.156.160.126
    5 GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
    6 80.95.144.23
    7 195.82.60.45
    8 195.82.60.29
    9 195.82.61.14
    10 195.82.50.234
    11 * 195.82.50.10

    Computing statistics for 275 seconds...
    Source to Here This Node/Link
    Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
    0 xxxxx [xxxxxx]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% Speedport.ip [xxxxxx]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    2 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 62.155.241.122
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    3 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 217.5.118.26
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    4 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 80.156.160.126
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 25ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    6 27ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% 80.95.144.23
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    7 27ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.60.45
    4/ 100 = 4% |
    8 82ms 14/ 100 = 14% 10/ 100 = 10% 195.82.60.29
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    9 70ms 6/ 100 = 6% 2/ 100 = 2% 195.82.61.14
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    10 72ms 6/ 100 = 6% 2/ 100 = 2% 195.82.50.234
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    11 66ms 4/ 100 = 4% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.50.10

    Trace complete.
    16:10
    C:\Users\Pablo>pathping neolobby07.ffxiv.com

    Tracing route to neolobby07.ffxiv.com [195.82.50.10]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    0 xxxxx [xxxxx]
    1 Speedport.ip [xxxxx]
    2 62.155.241.122
    3 217.5.118.26
    4 80.156.160.126
    5 GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
    6 80.95.144.23
    7 195.82.60.45
    8 195.82.60.29
    9 195.82.61.14
    10 195.82.50.234
    11 * 195.82.50.10

    Computing statistics for 275 seconds...
    Source to Here This Node/Link
    Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
    0 xxxxxxxxxx [xxxxx]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% Speedport.ip [xxxxxx]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    2 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 62.155.241.122
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    3 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 217.5.118.26
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    4 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 80.156.160.126
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    5 25ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    6 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 80.95.144.23
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    7 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.60.45
    4/ 100 = 4% |
    8 79ms 11/ 100 = 11% 7/ 100 = 7% 195.82.60.29
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    9 69ms 11/ 100 = 11% 7/ 100 = 7% 195.82.61.14
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    10 243ms 10/ 100 = 10% 6/ 100 = 6% 195.82.50.234
    0/ 100 = 0% |
    11 68ms 4/ 100 = 4% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.82.50.10

    Trace complete.
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    Last edited by Josephina; 07-07-2019 at 11:26 PM.

  9. #159
    Player
    NymeriaVelaris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    19
    Character
    Nymeria Velaris
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    07.07.19 13:50 Telekom


    Code:
    Routenverfolgung zu "neolobby06.ffxiv.com" [195.82.50.9]
    über maximal 30 Hops:
      0  Mein-PC.Speedport_W_724V_Typ_A_05011603_06_001 [192.168.2.101]
      1  Speedport.ip [192.168.2.1]
      2  62.155.246.140
      3  217.5.118.22
      4  80.156.160.126
      5  GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
      6  80.95.144.23
      7  195.82.60.45
      8  195.82.60.29
      9  195.82.61.14
     10  195.82.50.234
     11  195.82.50.9
    
    Berechnung der Statistiken dauert ca. 275 Sekunden...
                Quelle zum Abs.  Knoten/Verbindung
    Abs. Zeit   Verl./Ges.=   %  Verl./Ges.=   %  Adresse
      0                                           Mein-PC.Speedport_W_724V_Typ_A_05011603_06_001 [192.168.2.101]
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      1    1ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  Speedport.ip [192.168.2.1]
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      2  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  62.155.246.140
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      3  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  217.5.118.22
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      4  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  80.156.160.126
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      5   11ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  GW-Link11.retn.net [87.245.236.141]
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      6   11ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  80.95.144.23
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      7   13ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.60.45
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      8   26ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.60.29
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      9   10ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.61.14
                                   17/ 100 = 17%   |
     10   52ms    17/ 100 = 17%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.50.234
                                    5/ 100 =  5%   |
     11   53ms    22/ 100 = 22%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.82.50.9
    
    Ablaufverfolgung beendet.
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    Last edited by NymeriaVelaris; 07-07-2019 at 09:05 PM.

  10. #160
    Player
    HiraQin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Posts
    67
    Character
    Hirara Hira
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Hallo SE..ist zu diesem Thema hier eigentlich Besserung in Sicht oder weniger?
    Seid bitte ehrlich denn dieses Problem besteht nun seit über 4 Wochen und es hat sich nichts getan.
    Wisst ihr was zu tun ist oder kann ich erstmal mein Abo auf Eis legen auf unbestimmte Zeit da absolut keine Lösung in Sicht ist?
    Das ist kein Sarkasmus oder Ironie sondern eine ernstgemeinte Frage.

    Es macht auch echt keinen Spass mehr mit dem ständigen Rubberbanding,lags ohne Ende..jede Instanz fühlt sich an als würd ich mich durchziehen lassen..Solo-Instanzen kann ich in der Regel immer mehrere Male machen da ich meist bei irgendnem mehrere Sekunden langen Standbild in ner AoE sterbe etc..

    Und die Routenverfolgung zu posten spare ich mir da es aussieht wie bei den anderen auch..Telekom blabla etc..
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