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    I just got dismiss from premads (No reason)

    HI!
    Can all premads just dismiss poeple like that for no reason,i was playing the game doing dmg as dps and for no reason i found my slef out of the dungeon and when i told my friend why did they dismiss me i mean what was there false reason he said Cheat and he said "i couldn t help bc they were 2 and i voted no"

    So now should i cancel my pre-order and change the game or just stay and wait for the GM reaction

    I got so Angry .I did contact support but they won't act and i know that when they said that they can't informe me so i guess this will just pass like wind does
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    King Canadane
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    Just chill and carry on.
    They can dismiss for a difference in playstyle which covers basically anything. Considering how little it happens, it’s probably best to let it go.
    It’s nothing to cancel a preorder over.
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    They said i was cheating
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anas View Post
    They said i was cheating
    Which a look over the data of the run would plainly say was not the case. In which case they would still be in trouble over a wrongful vote kick.
    Vote Dismisses dont happen often at all I'll be honest I've seen maybe ten over two years and I've only been vote dismissed twice in that time.
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    Last edited by kidalutz; 06-19-2019 at 12:10 AM.
    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anas View Post
    They said i was cheating
    It might not have been cheating. I know when you kick somebody, in french, 'cheating' isn't a choice. It's replaced by 'behavior' (comportement) for whatever reasons. I once tried to kick someone that kept trolling in Castrum, ages ago, and people laughed at me (well, the person kicking, they couldn't know it was me) because he 'clearly wasn't cheating', even thought that's not what I tried to kick him for.

    So perhaps they were french and kicked you on 'behavior', and not cheating. Or maybe not. I really don't know.

    Anyhow, don't let it get to you. It happens. Sometimes people kick just for fun. I got kicked once when I joined a PF because I'm listed as french. I did nothing nor said anything except "Hi". They just said Baguette and kicked me. Oh boi.

    Just let it slide and carry on. It dosen't happen that often, I promise.
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    Last edited by DarkMasamune; 06-19-2019 at 12:18 AM. Reason: typos D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    It might not have been cheating. I know when you kick somebody, in french, 'cheating' isn't a choice. It's replaced my 'behavior' (comportement) for whatever reasons. I once tried to kick someone that kept trolling in Castrum, ages ago, and people laughed at me (well, the person kicking, they couldn't know it was me) because he 'clearly wasn't cheating', even thought that's not what I tried to kick him for.

    So perhaps they were french and kicked you on 'behavior', and not cheating. Or maybe not. I really don't know.

    Anyhow, don't let it get to you. It happens. Sometimes people kick just for fun. I got kicked once when I joined a PF because I'm listed as french. I did nothing nor said anything except "Hi". They just said Baguette and kicked me. Oh boi.

    Just let it slide and carry on. It dosen't happen that often, I promise.
    Why hate on the French they invented all the awesome things in life. viva la France!

    Might not be French myself but thank for things like you know Democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    Why hate on the French they invented all the awesome things in life. viva la France!

    Might not be French myself but thank for things like you know Democracy.
    I am French XD I'm not hating. I'm explaining that perhaps OP was kicked not on 'cheating', but something else, since in the French version of the game, 'cheating' (Tricher) isn't an option. It's replaced by 'behavior' (Comportement). So maybe OP isn't saying everything and was rude, or maybe the other ones were plain mean and decided to kick him for fun.

    I just think it's a bit weird that they changed Cheating for Behavior. It really dosen't mean the same thing.

    Edit : Ah well, Vidu explained it, it's not even the same thing in German either, weird...
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    I was palying normal no bad behavious i said they were premade they can just click 2 Yes and u get out of dungeon even if u play perfect rotation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anas View Post
    They said i was cheating
    Did they say that (in some sort of chat) or was that the reason they picked from the menu (you need to pick a reason why you want to dismiss someone)?

    If it was the first one and they did kick you for "cheating", it might very well be that they noticed something that seemed odd to them but had other reasons than cheating - for example: you could have been teleporting through the dungeon because of lag but to them it could also have looked like you were using some sort of cheat (when you actually wasnt). So they might have truely believed that you were using some kind of hack or cheat and removed you because of that.
    Its also worth noticing that "Cheating" isnt the same in every language - in german that option translates closer to "Illicit activties" (Unerlaubte Aktivitäten), which opens up a broader interpretation.

    If it was the later: While "difference in playstyle" is a valid reason to remove someone from a dungeon, we dont have that option directly so people usually just pick anyone from the list.
    You can report them for kicking you, but unless they outright said (in chat) that they would remove you to mess with you or insulted you in any way the GMs wont do anything about it, since kicking for difference in playstyle is okay.

    While I understand that being kicked is upsetting, it would be intresting to get more context.
    What duty? What class were you playing? Was that class geared properly and were you using proper rotations (you'll be "doing damage" even without proper gear and rotation, thats why I'm asking)?
    They might have had a reason why they didnt want to continue playing with you - and you're just not aware of that reason. Bad gear and lack of knowledge in terms of general mechanics and job performance are the usual suspects.

    This still doesnt like something to quit the game over. Two people didnt want to play it with you, so what? That doesnt change any of the content, nor does it change any of the content you were looking forward to - forward enough to pre-order an expansion you cant even access because your character hasnt finished Stormblood yet...?
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    Last edited by Vidu; 06-19-2019 at 12:29 AM. Reason: just added the original german phrase - for anyone who wants to look up how badly I translated that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Did they say that (in some sort of chat) or was that the reason they picked from the menu (you need to pick a reason why you want to dismiss someone)?

    If it was the first one and they did kick you for "cheating", it might very well be that they noticed something that seemed odd to them but had other reasons than cheating - for example: you could have been teleporting through the dungeon because of lag but to them it could also have looked like you were using some sort of cheat (when you actually wasnt). So they might have truely believed that you were using some kind of hack or cheat and removed you because of that.
    Its also worth noticing that "Cheating" isnt the same in every language - in german that option translates closer to "Illicit activties" (Unerlaubte Aktivitäten), which opens up a broader interpretation.

    If it was the later: While "difference in playstyle" is a valid reason to remove someone from a dungeon, we dont have that option directly so people usually just pick anyone from the list.
    You can report them for kicking you, but unless they outright said (in chat) that they would remove you to mess with you or insulted you in any way the GMs wont do anything about it, since kicking for difference in playstyle is okay.

    While I understand that being kicked is upsetting, it would be intresting to get more context.
    What duty? What class were you playing? Was that class geared properly and were you using proper rotations (you'll be "doing damage" even without proper gear and rotation, thats why I'm asking)?
    They might have had a reason why they didnt want to continue playing with you - and you're just not aware of that reason. Bad gear and lack of knowledge in terms of general mechanics and job performance are the usual suspects.

    This still doesnt like something to quit the game over. Two people didnt want to play it with you, so what? That doesnt change any of the content, nor does it change any of the content you were looking forward to - forward enough to pre-order an expansion you cant even access because your character hasnt finished Stormblood yet...?

    I was playing a Arcaniste lvl 20 i was doing dmg as dps heal if i was gonna die xD ofc i need to and i was playing my roll normal.
    They didn't even say a word and they kicked me for cheating I don't even have Dps metre bc i think it's illegal and you guys know BLM fans they like to see there dmg at Top.
    For SHB you need to know that SHADOWBRINGERS expansion pack also includes FINAL FANTASY® XIV: HEAVENSWARD & FINAL FANTASY® XIV: STORMBLOOD, which will be provided at release on 2 July, 2019. I can do it when it come out.
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