6.0 job wishes and expectations

[HyoMinPark]

You absolutely cannot de homogenize the classes. We passed that line in the sand and we cannot go back.

The literal second someone runs the numbers on "unique classes" the meta will double down I'll say even triple down, I remember back in 2.0 when I got flak for going into a DUTY as warrior. Could you imagine if the numbers show only 4 jobs are viable? Then you won't be let into partys and could be kicked from raids. It can be that bad, I have seen it with my own eyes.

There is no such thing as balance without homogenization. You cannot make every class do the same amount of damage and utility without it, all you can do is change the visuals.

We could have stuck to the course but they wanted the game to be equal across the board, and equality is not always a fun and good thing in a video game.

Not all jobs have to play exactly the same. I’d rather have AST not play like a WHM with weaker heals and weak cards, personally. Or have every healer spam 1 DoT and 1 filler spell—from an AST main, let me tell you how utterly boring that is. If it weren’t for the card juggling, I’d be bored to tears with my DPS rotation. Too bad they made the mechanic I enjoyed the most about AST braindead and unimaginative. I enjoyed the multi-DoT upkeep on SCH and WHM...but that’s going away in ShB as well.

And it doesn’t seem like tanks really appreciate DRK getting Inner Delirium, because it feels unimaginative as well.

Not all jobs have to play 100% the same. You’re going on and on about the meta, but I’m not even talking about the meta. I’m talking about each job feeling different. Not just the same job with different skills.


Re 2.0 WAR: 2.0 WAR was absolute trash. They’ve been buffing it and making it the best tank ever since.

[ReiMakoto]

I'd like BLU to be a full Job

But also with them seemingly removing some of the more time oriented skills off of Astro, I could see a Time Mage potentially, and I think it could be pretty cool, more support oriented caster like dancer revolving around keeping haste up on certain party members and themselves, whilst throwing comets and quake in its downtime, I could think of some full movesets for them, but it would be cool in general to get an another Iconic Caster in (without butchering it this time like with BLU)

[Bright-Flower]

It's hard to say for PLD exactly because the 5.0 changes are great adn I'll need to really play it to get a solid idea of what might need improving from here.

This will never happen but I'd love it if they split the aetherflow/plague dot/tactician elements of arcanist into another job altogether with summoner becoming more of as summoner with each expansion, it feels like it's taking over the parts of the job I liked about ARR and HW smn.

I'd like healers to have a few more offensive buttons brought back. They shouldn't have dps rotations as compelx as a dps, but 'dot, nuke, aoe nuke' is kind of boring in situations where you're doing solo content or there just isn't much healing to be done.

[Videra]

Wishes:

* Higher Skill Caps for jobs (Keep lowering skill floors if you have to appease horribads, but allow some level of actual ability to master a job beyond smashing your face onto the keyboard)

* BLU as a real job

* Necromancer as Healer

* Sniper as rDPS

* No more ungabunga CD's where you just spam big skill a bunch (Inner Release/Requiescat/Delirium/Hypercharge)

Expectations:

* No new healer ("We want to work on Healer balance instead of adding a new one" for 6th year in a row)

* Chemist as rDPS (Because, why wouldn't they turn the Healer that many people request into the new rDPS again?)

* New Mage job (While they keep BLU limited because reasons)

* Monk gets crapped on again (I expect something like every skill gives them stacking -100% SkS. Every oGCD now eats all their GL stacks too.)

* All jobs get simplified into a single spammed button, one oGCD and one ungabunga CD that makes them spam their single button more gooder.

I agree with some of the things in here as likely, but there's enough salt in here to build a new Eiffel tower.

[PatronasCharm]

I'd love to see a Geomancer as a healer, I have a feeling they might sling it in at 5.5.

BUT, to be honest, I want Chemist to be the next Healer, fun, unique, with a hand-cannon that shoots potions! =D [Look at my little concept below]

DPS? I'd love to see a Great Hammer job, I say Mystic Knight, even if it isn't a Tank, maybe a fun new Magic hybrid with big hammers. Could be the Dark Knight I've always wanted.

Spell Fencer / Spellsword.

[GrimGale]

People don't seem to know what "classic job" means. It doesn't mean "job that has appeared in a Final Fantasy game before", but rather a recurring one that's been around for a long time. Chemist is a job that appears occasionally in spinoff titles, and to date has appeared in one main series game.

If we followed the recurring job logic, we'd be stuck with very few jobs. Most FF to date skip the Job system and have characters based on combining different classes and gimmicks. Jobs like Astrologian, Dancer or Gunbreaker wouldn't be in the game.

It's hardly what I consider "classic", and their whole gimmick is to make use of items in the party's inventory to concoct potions with varying effects. That...doesn't really sound like something that works in an MMORPG setting.

Chemist has appeared in FFT, FFX as Rikku (Who is a mix of Thief/Monk/Chemist), FFX-2 (As Alchemist Dress Sphere), FFTactics Advance and Tactics Advance 2 (As Alchemist for Nu Mou races)- And while the gimmick is indeed the use of Healing items, they also use the action "Mix" which allows them to produce potent effects by combining items.

Why would these abilities use MP when they're clearly not magical?

I don't think FFXIV is clear enough about what is magical and what isn't in terms of visuals given the splendor of a lot of physical moves, witch huge explosions, freezing slashes and whatnot. I can't see why a character wouldn't be able to "empower" mixtures with her/his own ether and shoot them at party members. Imagine Ana from Overwatch- She shoots healing charges from a distance.

Wouldn't this conflict with the Alchemist job?.

Does Machinist conflict with Blacksmith? They use metal ammunitions, machines and engineering- They could be an engineer crafting class. Alchemist is just the one that produces the stuff and the Chemist is the one that uses the stuff in battle. If you don't like the name , it could allways be renamed to "Medic" or "Pharmacist".

[Ryskim]

For 6.0 (or half way there) what I want is a Necromancer (either healer or dps) with a 2-handed scythe weapon, and a Beastmaster.

Also, please skillchains and Magic Bursts. Bring that to the game because it's so much fun.

[Ryskim]

Not all jobs have to play exactly the same. I’d rather have AST not play like a WHM with weaker heals and weak cards, personally. Or have every healer spam 1 DoT and 1 filler spell—from an AST main, let me tell you how utterly boring that is. If it weren’t for the card juggling, I’d be bored to tears with my DPS rotation. Too bad they made the mechanic I enjoyed the most about AST braindead and unimaginative. I enjoyed the multi-DoT upkeep on SCH and WHM...but that’s going away in ShB as well.

And it doesn’t seem like tanks really appreciate DRK getting Inner Delirium, because it feels unimaginative as well.

Not all jobs have to play 100% the same. You’re going on and on about the meta, but I’m not even talking about the meta. I’m talking about each job feeling different. Not just the same job with different skills.


Re 2.0 WAR: 2.0 WAR was absolute trash. They’ve been buffing it and making it the best tank ever since.

I know how you feel there. One of the things that would make each job unique is the 2-hour skill. Remember in XI? That was something unique to each job and amazing. I wish it they put it in this game as well.

Also, skillchains and magic bursts. One can dream.

[AngelicSnake]

I want either a green mage, time mage or chemist as the next healer. I want green mage the most. I like maces and how bubble looked in ffxii. Maybe the could use oil as a dot and fire spells for their normal attacks and they could play off each other.

[Cled-cat]

There’s no job yet that’s fully dedicated to using the 3 elements of nature magic (especially since WHM look to be leaving their CNJ roots far behind) so I’d love for Geomancer to step in and be a caster that is sort of the opposite to Black Mage, loads of manoeuvrability and utility, but a lower damage potential to compensate. Maybe even some more CC and melee options baked into their kit as well to stand out. I really want to be able to cause earthquakes, tornados and floods, those elements really need some love! Aero 2 and Stone just don’t really cut it...

Chemist or Necromancer for healer. We really need a healer that will break the current mould of happy light/faerie/star magic and bring some science or death magic in to shake things up!