Silvertear Skies plot hole

[Nalien]

While I understand the point you are making here, remember that there is apparently a similar myth regarding 'The Source', Silvertear lake's analogue on the First, also being the wellspring of aether for the world. If 2 different histories and societies define very similar mythos in a fantasy setting like ours, it begs to contain some element of truth regarding the nature of the world no?

Well, my current theory, based on the latest trailer, is that Eorzea (and its Shard equivalents) was the location of the first summoning, and subsequent Sundering when Hydaelyn and Zodiark fell out. It's the epicenter of everything, it's retained some mythological importance across all Shards as a result of that. I believe even the Ascians hold Eorzea in some higher regard than the rest of the world? So yes, there must be some other reason for that.

Now, that perhaps debunks my own Allagan/Crystal Tower theory, but... How do people on the Source remember anything? So far there's no reason to believe the First has experienced Calamities, it should have had a fairly typical history. Naturally the memory from the Sundering should carry on in some form (there are even cave paintings detailing it) so they have plenty with which to paint mythology with. The Source though, it gets hard resets on its civilizations with every Rejoining. How does Eorzea remember that Silvertear holds any significance with that happening? Simple, it's remembered as an important site, not because the details are remembered, but because civilizations keep setting up there. Why did the Allagan set up shop there? Because of a vague memory from a previous era that the area held significance. Why did the Mhach set up nearby? Given their ties to Voidsent, I could see that being a large factor given the Allagan set up a massive Voidgate to open there. Now, we remember it as being important because it was important to those civilizations that we barely remember, but do we remember why they found it important? Not really, so we make that up, and in a world of magic and aether? Naturally those are the go-tos for myth.

[Temperjoke]

Midgard was there before the Allagans, at least, because Bahamut was one of his brood in eggs that traveled with him. That means the covenant with Hydaelyn was in place before the Allagan Empire. The empire didn't encounter Primals until it invaded Meracydia though, after it defeated the dragons living there. That means, the seal only affected the Eorzea continent. This makes sense though that there would be a seal, due to the high volume of aether that the continent has compared to the other continents, it makes it much easier to summon Primals as a result. I'm not sure why Midgard wasn't roused to respond though, maybe he was worried about the strength of the empire and thought discretion was the better option, given what had happened to his children in Meracydia.

[Daralii]

Midgard was there before the Allagans, at least, because Bahamut was one of his brood in eggs that traveled with him. That means the covenant with Hydaelyn was in place before the Allagan Empire. The empire didn't encounter Primals until it invaded Meracydia though, after it defeated the dragons living there. That means, the seal only affected the Eorzea continent. This makes sense though that there would be a seal, due to the high volume of aether that the continent has compared to the other continents, it makes it much easier to summon Primals as a result. I'm not sure why Midgard wasn't roused to respond though, maybe he was worried about the strength of the empire and thought discretion was the better option, given what had happened to his children in Meracydia.

He was there far enough back that the eggs of Bahamut and Tiamat could hatch, for them to mature enough to fly to Meracydia, start their own brood, and for that brood to spread and sire their own children until there were enough dragons later to summon Bahamut and for those dragons to be old enough that they gave rise to the diversity we can see in Azys Lla. All before Allag's invasion.

Why Middy broke the seal on Silvertear by willingly killing himself to stop the Garleans is probably going to be eternally unknown given his state after the events of Sigmascape(Or was it after Chaos? I can't remember.), but the power of the lake predates any known civilization. Who knows, maybe the Heart of Sabik is relevant and will finally be explained now that we're getting information on a pre-Sundering civilization.

[Cilia]

Just clarifying a couple things up:

1. Midgardsormr went inactive after the fight in Sigmascape, having used up all his energy to free the Warrior of Light from Omega.

2. Midgardsormr did not go on a suicide mission against the Imperial air force. It wasn't even a mutual kill. Midgardsormr actually defeated the Agrius; were it not for his prideful desire to show off by coiling around it and roaring, he would have been fine - it was the ceruleum tanks exploding shortly post-victory (while he was coiled around the ship) that did him in.

[ObsidianFire]

And by "did him in" we mean "he decided to have a two-decade long nap". Which for a being millenia old probably isn't worth even considering a set-back.

[Floortank]

If it was his job to protect the Lake because of "reasons", then I expect him to have at least tried to stop the Allagan. Instead we have absolutely no account of that, so I guess he just failed quietly? Then he failed once again when he nuked the seal in 1.0s trailer?

Whether he tried or not is immaterial to your claim, which is that he arbitrarily decided to stop the Garleans, but not the Allagan or the Mhach, from setting up near Silvertear. You say it's a plot hole, but it's not.

1) He couldn't have stopped the Allagan Empire from moving onto Silvertear Lake. Whether he tried to or not doesn't matter. The Garlean fleet is a bunch of mere toys compared to Allagan weaponry; he got KO'd by ceruleum engines on accident / the Allagans had way more sophisticated, dangerous, and powerful weaponry than the side effects of an explosion. Yes, he probably failed or couldn't do anything about it. That's not a plot hole.

2) The Mhachi weren't threatening the world by moving into the vicinity, so he didn't need to attack them. Nor does Rowena threaten the lake by setting up shop near it. If there's not an actual threat to the font of aether in the lake, then he's not going to react.

[SannaR]

Do we know if Bahamut was ever chained up real bad like Tiamat was? Since If you go talk to a node in Azys La says a second dragon was bound really good like Tiamat was broke free and then seemingly said screw this I'm out of here. They just don't give a name to said other dragon. Also wasn't Midgardsormr also asleep cause I mean what else you going to do while you're watching over a lake full of aether until the Garleans? We don't know exactly when he started guarding Silver Tear and if he was still in need of recovery after his fight with Omega and then a long space flight.

[ObsidianFire]

Bahamut was killed in Mercydia. Tiamat later summoned him as a Primal at the behest of the Ascians.

I would be very interested in knowing what Node in Azys Lla says that another dragon escaped from Azys Lla.

So far... we have no idea what Midgardsormr was doing during the time of the Allagan Empire.

[Nalien]

Whether he tried or not is immaterial to your claim, which is that he arbitrarily decided to stop the Garleans, but not the Allagan or the Mhach, from setting up near Silvertear. You say it's a plot hole, but it's not.

OP claimed it was a plot hole, I've done nothing of the sort. I've simply pointed out that it's an odd gap in our understanding of events.

Heck, I'm pretty sure I've claimed the exact opposite that he "arbitrarily decided to stop the Garleans", I've given what I think is his reasoning for stopping them, and why he did nothing with the Allagan or Mhach; He was keeping Crystal Tower safe. Crystal Tower was built by the Allagans, ergo he had no reason to protect it during their reign, only after it sunk away and was sealed in a little time bubble did it need guarding. The Mhach had seemingly no interest in Allagan technology. Garlemald? They straight up attempted to recreate Crystal Tower with Bozja Citadel, then flew on into Mor Dhona? Yeah, there is clear intention there and reason to act on Middys part, IMO.

That's my interpretation of events based on the information we have (and my reluctance to take mythos as fact). The information we have that suggests he was guarding the Lake during the Allagans reign is none existent as it currently stands (again, except for mythos). There is absolutely zero mention of him, no indication of any fight, no indication he did anything during that time. It's not a plot hole, it's simply missing information. Oddly missing information given how much we've delved into that history at this point. Shadowbringers could fill in some of those gaps and completely debunk my theory, but until then?

If there's anything resembling a plot hole, I'd say it's the idea that he was protecting a seal on Primals at Silvertear, when he catastrophically failed to do that. Again though, I don't think that's what he was protecting, and I'm more incline to think releasing Primals was an intentional act. He wanted to stop Garlemalds advance, and releasing Primals did exactly that... At least it did for a while...

[MrThinker]

Bahamut was killed in Mercydia. Tiamat later summoned him as a Primal at the behest of the Ascians.

I would be very interested in knowing what Node in Azys Lla says that another dragon escaped from Azys Lla.

So far... we have no idea what Midgardsormr was doing during the time of the Allagan Empire.

I believe they may be referring to this snip of info from Gilly when it was taking us around Azys Lla:

<blip> I regret to inform you that the matter conduit leading to the Flagship is no longer functioning.
According to my records, it was destroyed by a dragon, which broke free of its restraints when they failed approximately two thousand three hundred and sixty-nine years, one month, twenty-four days, seven hours and four minutes ago.
Please find an alternate route to the Aetherochemical Research Facility. The Allagan Research Council apologizes for any inconvenience caused.

But we have no idea if this means another of the First Brood, or just some random Meracydian. Remember that before Cid breaks it, Azys Lla was covered by an one of Allag's most powerful barriers, and we have no reason to assume it didn't work both ways.
Of course they may be referring to another mention of a dragon escaping, but having recently redone Heavensward, I am certain that it is not mentioned elsewhere.