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    Secret of Mana Collaboration?

    A collaboration between Secret of Mana and FFXIV is something I've been hoping for, for a long time.

    The remake of Seiken Densetsu 2 definitely needs some work to fix.
    • Flying / Turning with Flammie feels sluggish compared to the SNES. Banking is broken?
    • Cannon travel doesn't show us flying through the air
    • I can't change the styles of the text boxes
    • I miss the sprite's head moving up and down when it laughs
    • No online multiplayer
    • User Interface breaks if you play at an aspect ratio other than 16:9
    • World is empty/black if you play at an aspect ratio other than 16:9
    • It would be better to show black bars and lock the the UI than to show it broken at other aspect ratios
    • Ring menus no longer center around the characters, instead they are fixed to the center of the screen.
    • Current AI for computer controlled allies feels like it needs more options. I wouldn't mind seeing the grid from the SNES come back in some way
    • Some menu back grounds are flat black instead of being a sea of endless trees

    I could go on, but this isn't the place for it. Granted, Secret of Mana doesn't have a forum to leave feedback on. I'll spare you the rest of that rant.

    The point is, I was excited when I heard about the remake, and hope they will go back to fix it. But I also got to thinking that would be a great collaboration opportunity.

    For FFXIV, the first thing that comes to mind is that I'd love to see a 3 person white dragon mount that moves/banks like Flammie in the SNES. There is at least 4 (2 original, 2 remake) music themes that could go with it, not counting any spin Sokken might put on it.

    What flying Flammie looks like:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BhBB9gjLWE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF-V7q2LZMs&t=175


    Maybe an alternate mount that looks more like the Mana Beast? Nah, that is more like a boss. There is also opportunity for hair styles, weapon glamours (each mana weapon has 8 to 9-ish versions to choose from), and maybe infamous tiger themed gear. You could probably find a housing item or two. Maybe fireworks imitating magic effects from the game. An emote similar to the sprite's exaggerated laugh! There is a lot to choose from.

    For Secret of Mana Remake, there is the possibility of DLC for new outfits that currently are only occupied by Moogle and Tiger gear.

    The announcement for the Secret of Mana Collection and the Trials of Mana Remake (Seiken Densetsu 3) at E3 2019 once more got my hopes up for a collaboration of this nature. But that isn't all!

    Maybe it is already happening? I can only hope! Am I alone in wishing for this sort of collaboration?
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    Last edited by TwinMoon; 06-17-2019 at 11:58 PM.

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    SOM collab would be awesome and far better then some that we have had that are not even related to anything SE
    Speaking of which... i should get the secret of mana remake, to add to my long backlog, lol
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    no way, if square can't even bother to remake secret of mana decently without it looking like a phone game.
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    I'd really like for a Trials of Mana (SD3) collab, really. That game is finally getting a western localization after two decades! I loved it on the Super Famicon
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    no way, if square can't even bother to remake secret of mana decently without it looking like a phone game.
    The Secret of Mana remake was made for the Vita. It is literally a handheld/phone game.
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    handheld games don't look like ugly phone games.
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    if there was a collab they would have announced it already to time with the release of the collection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    if there was a collab they would have announced it already to time with the release of the collection.
    I can dream! Let me have my hopes and dreams!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    no way, if square can't even bother to remake secret of mana decently without it looking like a phone game.
    You will either love or hate the new art style. They were facing an up hill battle in converting anything from sprites to 3D models. I think the fact that the mouths don't move with the dialog is more jarring to people. I don't hate the purely emotive idea that they have going on. After all, the game was very expressive with its sprites in the SNES days, but it doesn't feel right to me for some reason.

    The game is still worth buying. It comes close to giving you your childhood experience, but it isn't quite there yet. If you don't think it is good for full price, then try to watch for it on a steam sale.
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    I'd love a SoM collaboration! The new chocobo actually gave me a smooshed flammie feel hahaha (that's not to say I didn't like it, I thought they looked cool and am excited to get one).

    Also Chrono Trigger crossover would be neat :3... I know an entire town would be way too much for a simple cross over but I really really want a Zeal like location (I had hoped FFXIV would let me make a personal housing area like that).
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