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    aishwab's Avatar
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    Panz Brewhammer
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 80

    Which job are you most looking forward to...

    With the changes and additions to tanks, I'm curious as to what tank job everyone is most looking forward to.

    Personally I'm stuck between War and Pld for the expansion. Been a War main up to now but Pld changes are starting to tempt me lol.

    What do you think, going to stick with your current main or are you being tempted by the changes as well?
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    GNB, SE killed DRK Gameplay and his last piece of identity, so GNB bcs looks so fun and unique.
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    Last edited by shao32; 06-16-2019 at 11:26 AM.

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    Kalise Relanah
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Gunbreaker.

    I hate the current IR > FC > FC > FC > FC > FC burst. It feels lame and uninteresting. So of course, they copy/pasted it onto DRK for Delirium > BS > BS > BS > BS > BS

    Meanwhile, PLD also keeps their Requiescat > HS > HS > HS > HS > Confiteur burst, with the new exciting addition of Confiteur to close it out instead of a 5th Holy Spirit. The innovation is real /s

    Gunbreaker is actually unique, in that it's "Burst" is a secondary combo that weaves in an oGCD. Which is also on a 30s base CD. Also, is affected by SkS. So I'm looking forward to playing around with a SkS > Crit > DH Gunbreaker.

    Pew pew!

    (Also, I'm super let down by the recycled animations WAR is getting for Inner Chaos and Chaotic Cyclone...)
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Gunbreaker is actually unique, in that it's "Burst" is a secondary combo that weaves in an oGCD. Which is also on a 30s base CD. Also, is affected by SkS. So I'm looking forward to playing around with a SkS > Crit > DH Gunbreaker.
    And by unique Kalise means Heavensward dark knight with its oGCDs as a combo LOL.
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    K'rheya Tia
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    Odin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Gunbreaker is actually unique, in that it's "Burst" is a secondary combo that weaves in an oGCD. Which is also on a 30s base CD. Also, is affected by SkS. So I'm looking forward to playing around with a SkS > Crit > DH Gunbreaker.
    Is it really though? No matter how I look at what we know, it's another "press buttons when they light up" job like PLD. Every 30 seconds use Continuation combo in order, while pressing same ogcd after each step, otherwise spam the basic one with the other cartridge spender every 2nd combo or so and press cds whenever they're up. The rate at which they get their resource and the complete lack of choice of how to spend it doesn't really scream "depth" to me.

    I wish I could be positive, but the SHB tanks really make it difficult... More utility is nice I guess...
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    Kalise Relanah
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Satarn View Post
    Is it really though?
    Yes it is.

    It's burst window rotation isn't simply CD > Big Skill x5

    It's a 3 step GCD combo with an oGCD to weave in. But that only takes 3 out of 5 GCD's for a standard 10s burst window. So then you have to decide whether you want to do your normal rotation, or take advantage of any buffs and try and apply your 2 DoTs. All the while, having up to 5 other oGCD actions you want to weave in (2x Rough Divide, Blasting Zone, 2x Burst Strike (Fuelled by Bloodfest)) - All within that 10s burst window.

    To say nothing about how SkS will be a great stat for GNB due to their burst combo being affected by it, which will then also desync it from rDPS CD's (Since it's base CD is 30s you'll be reducing it from that so it won't easily line up with the 60/90/120/180s rDPS CD's) as well as requiring a Cartridge to initiate (Bearing in mind, if Bloodfest is available, you'd want to use that for 2x Burst Strikes during the window, rather than to initiate the combo and only have 1 Burst Strike).

    This is all a lot different than "Hurr Durr Inner Release/Delirium/Requiestcat > 5x Fell Cleave/Bloodspiller/Holy Spirit(Confiteur)" every 90/90/60s that maybe you weave in Upheaval + Onslaught/Flood of Darkness + Plunge/Intervene + Spirits Within during.
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    K'rheya Tia
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    Odin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    This is all a lot different than "Hurr Durr Inner Release/Delirium/Requiestcat > 5x Fell Cleave/Bloodspiller/Holy Spirit(Confiteur)" every 90/90/60s that maybe you weave in Upheaval + Onslaught/Flood of Darkness + Plunge/Intervene + Spirits Within during.
    That's true, I'm just not sure if it's enough. I do hope you're right though.
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Atomos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Satarn View Post
    Is it really though? No matter how I look at what we know, it's another "press buttons when they light up" job like PLD. Every 30 seconds use Continuation combo in order, while pressing same ogcd after each step, otherwise spam the basic one with the other cartridge spender every 2nd combo or so and press cds whenever they're up. The rate at which they get their resource and the complete lack of choice of how to spend it doesn't really scream "depth" to me.

    I wish I could be positive, but the SHB tanks really make it difficult... More utility is nice I guess...
    To be frank, you've just described how every class works in all hotbar-based MMOs.

    Personally looking forward to GNB the most due to it being "busier" than the other tanks, and FF8 themed.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Dark Knight is growing on me. It'll be difficult for anything to stop me playing PLD though.
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    Rael Levynfang
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I'm actually looking forward to DRK regardless of how bad most of those being vocal feel about it. It's going to be the first job I level to 80 maybe followed by PLD.
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