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    Wyssahtyn's Avatar
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    Saika Kinoshita
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    Mateus
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    Rogue Lv 53

    Concerning Y'shtola and the Live Letter

    Should she not be known for her mastery of conjury and not white magic?
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    Anony Moose
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Either, or neither. She's always had a rather eclectic set of skills as a result of having a Sharlayan education and the tutelage of Matoya. She's never quite fit into any of the rigidly-taught schools of magic we experience as players. She had that bubble dome back in the reveal trailers in 2009/2010! We've also seen her block and vaporize bullets with her hands and create the illusion that there's like a dozen of her standing in a circle around you.
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    Annana's Avatar
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    Sak-e Pota
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Not to mention Thancred was a bard (lowercase b), a Gladiator, a Rogue, and now a Gunbreaker. But he still uses skills like the Ninja teleport as a trust.

    Urianger uses Aetherial Manipulation as an AST as well.

    NPCs just don't conform to our class system.
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    Kogekigami's Avatar
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    Lark Weaver
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Yoshi p also said she has turned to black magic to fight the light. So she has willenly done this.
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    JeanneOrnitier's Avatar
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    Noa Kyrie
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Annana View Post
    Not to mention Thancred was a bard (lowercase b), a Gladiator, a Rogue, and now a Gunbreaker. But he still uses skills like the Ninja teleport as a trust.

    Urianger uses Aetherial Manipulation as an AST as well.

    NPCs just don't conform to our class system.
    Which makes sense. For example, if you were a Thaumaturge and started learning how to use a bow, you wouldn't suddenly forget every spell you learned.
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    Sathona Jun
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    Ragnarok
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Either, or neither. She's always had a rather eclectic set of skills as a result of having a Sharlayan education and the tutelage of Matoya. She's never quite fit into any of the rigidly-taught schools of magic we experience as players. She had that bubble dome back in the reveal trailers in 2009/2010! We've also seen her block and vaporize bullets with her hands and create the illusion that there's like a dozen of her standing in a circle around you.
    Would that explain why her class might be referred as Witch?
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sathona View Post
    Would that explain why her class might be referred as Witch?
    I think that's more because they are trying to avoid using jobs that evolve from classes for the trusts, maybe.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Darkpaw's Avatar
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    Akio Foxx
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 100
    They want each of the scions to feel special and unique, if they are just using the same skills we do on any given class then they are just.. weaker versions of us. Giving some of them their own classes/jobs or unique skills they apply to the same jobs we use they are more unique and dynamic characters in their own right. Y'shtola being a Witch, Alphinaud being an Acadamecian, Minfilia (?) Being a Oracle of Light, Thancred using Sukuchi as a gunbreaker, Uriange using Aetherial Manip as an Astrologian, it gives them their own unique flair
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    RopeDrink's Avatar
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    Chloe Redstone
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    As above, it is just a manner of pepping their character(s) and reminding us that they're not just watered down 'allies of the WOL who mostly play insert-class-here'.

    Not only do they have their own unique class-based flare but they also handle certain situations in the trust/dungeon content in their own unique ways as well - one of which being how each Trust handles that dungeon with the wide-open crevice that has a tiny little platform for everyone to navigate across. If I remember right, Urianger will morph to the other side Black Mage style (which, ironically, will kill the player if they try to do the same), Alphinau slowly tip-toes his way over, Minfilia Rogue-sprints it like it's not a problem, Thancred uses the enemy-target to leap over etc etc, and you choose how you want to do it yourself. Now, let's forget the fact that we've played as some of them very briefly and that SE did no favours at the time by having said characters use only three damn spells despite their prominence in the story.

    I estimate there'll be quite a few of these little niche touches (not a 'feature', just little scripted quirks, on top of the fact they do not conform with standard classes). It helps to make them their own character after the 3-button debacle of Hien, Y'sthola, Alphinau etc. Honestly, those SB-MSQ moments did nothing but remind you how you're the biggest star of the show, being followed by tag-along's that typically just rely on plot-armour and a mere portion of class abilities (ie. it sucked in every way other than pure RP).

    By comparison, this trust system is a different (and much appreciated) way of handling them. Afterall, the Scions are arguably the most important non-WoL characters in the story (with crystal-bro and Mini-filia being prominent as well for the expansion) and all we've had to separate them is cutscene dialogue/antics, so now we get some (light) 'how would they handle this dungeon/situation' moments along with the quirks of their not-really-class.

    TLDR - it gets a thumbs up from me and I look forward to SE improving on the system and expanding on it in future for those who need help getting things done without queue-times.
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    disturbedcobra's Avatar
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    Radimir Amira
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Annana View Post
    Not to mention Thancred was a bard (lowercase b), a Gladiator, a Rogue, and now a Gunbreaker. But he still uses skills like the Ninja teleport as a trust.
    This was actually referenced in the MSQ whe they first meet Yugiri first arrived in Eorzea and Thancred first began weilding a 2nd blade when going after Leviathan. He is just that adept at learning various skills.

    https://youtu.be/-04O-ObKWog
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    Last edited by disturbedcobra; 06-18-2019 at 01:09 AM.

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