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    Riblet's Avatar
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    Riblet Lakshmi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 80

    The main reason I want New Game+

    To go into the last Zenos duty at minimum ilvl as SCH and see if it's even possible to DPS down the 3 swords only using Bio II and Broil II. Just want to make sure they are not gating new healers with their "new healer friendly" changes.
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    Jace Ossura
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Riblet View Post
    To go into the last Zenos duty at minimum ilvl as SCH and see if it's even possible to DPS down the 3 swords only using Bio II and Broil II. Just want to make sure they are not gating new healers with their "new healer friendly" changes.
    What's "minimum" ilvl for the scenario quest?
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    Jakaar Rakkin
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    Kujata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    What's "minimum" ilvl for the scenario quest?
    err... there isn't. It SHOULD be ilvl360 since it comes after The Ghimlyt Dark, but you can que into a solo instance with virtually only the weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    err... there isn't. It SHOULD be ilvl360 since it comes after The Ghimlyt Dark, but you can que into a solo instance with virtually only the weapon.
    Next question - does failing the check kill you?
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    As for OP... I beat it with a AST at min ilevel and lets be honest thier kit is worse than scholars is going to be.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Next question - does failing the check kill you?
    Yes. it works just like an add phase in a trial fight followed by the boss's ultimate. Not that I failed it myself, there was a thread of people complaining about it when it was first released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    Yes. it works just like an add phase in a trial fight followed by the boss's ultimate. Not that I failed it myself, there was a thread of people complaining about it when it was first released.
    Oof

    plusten
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    Riblet Lakshmi
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    Yeah, it does 999,999 damage if you fail.
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    yeah you die but you get the echo bonus after a bit.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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    Hede Devaul
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    Mateus
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    Fisher Lv 80
    It was easy for me, but watching my friend do it as SCH, at i360, it left absolutely no room for error. (Doesnt help he had an i350 weapon)
    Absolutely had to make sure he didnt accidentally have chain/cleric on CD, and had to swift cast for one of the AoEs he needs to dodge, while spreading DoTs, he needed 3 stacks up, while being able to aether flow right after he uses his 3 energy drains.
    if he stopped to dodge at any point, he fails the DPS check. if he starts a cast after moving by 0.1s, and it interrupts his cast, he failed the DPS check.
    if his fairy doesnt heal him through some of the stuff (i forget what was going on, but he had to eat soem AoEs in order to keep casting) because it wasted some CDs earlier, or is randomly slow to heal him, he might die, but if he stops to heal himself with a lustrate, he fails the DPS check.

    he did it repeatedly, until he did it 'perfectly' and still didnt do enough DPS. (I watched him perfect his run, there were no flaws in his play)
    the last 3% or so HP wasnt able to be cleared in time, and the only 2 things he didnt do, was put materia in every slot (i think he had 2 pieces of materia, and that was it) and then pop a MND potion.
    With a MND potion, and materia in, he failed the DPS check, but the very next run, finally cleared it with the same perfection run.

    so its possible atm, but depending on factors like, "are your accessories primarily making up your iLv?" it can be a pain in the butt. if he had an easier access to a weapon (having just gotten to Lv70, and rushed his iLv up to enter the fight, he didnt have the best gear, nor weapon, since weapons take longer to farm up.)

    with i400 weapons being easier to grab, even at min iLv, this would make the fight much easier, I would imagine.
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