Suggestion: Close Raid Roulete Loophole (Using low ilevel to force low level raids)

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Which is why I'm directing this more towards SE directly, of course the players will use a loophole because they want their daily rewards fast. If they could force level 50/60 roulette to only queue into Brayflox HM without a care for what a roulette means they would. This is more about game design.

....Why "Force" The Crystal Tower with this "Loophole" when you can literally just Que into them?
And if more people are Queuing for Labyrinth of the Ancients, they don't need to do this 'Loophole' your talking about because everyone wants it.

But since you bring up 50/60 Roulette. I think they need to make a separate Lv60 Roulette. Because 9/10 you will get an ARR lv50 dungeon, and those things can be long, and they reward shit EXP. A 60 roulette would be nice cause HW dungeons dont get a whole lot of attention.

If someone queues with an ilevel of 80 you can kick them from the raid if enough agree that they did that in a vindictive/trollish way. By the way with my suggestion your gear will get LOCKED when you start the duty. Your example of someone trolling a tank or a healer by removing your own gear during the instance won't work, your gear gets locked the moment you get in the duty.

Ive never seen this, Ive never seen anybody run This old Content without at least having 120 Gear which is EXTREMELY easy to get now.
Only People who'd be running with Minimum Gear are People looking for Minimum Runs, I dont think it would be right or fair to just go up and kick somebody because they are running low level gear.
I wasn't talking about Trolling at all, I was saying some might find it funny that someone tried to Que in with Low Level Gear....I haven't seen anybody do it in the past 4 years Ive been playing. But Im against locking Inventory, what if somebody accidentally didn't check their gear/put on the wrong Set? Ive done that quite a few times, that and forgot to put on my Job Stone. Plus what about times that somebody gets a better drop then what they have equipped? They should be allowed the option to put that on.

This whole system just sounds more like a Vindictive attack on people. Spite on people.

[Rowde]

Perhaps a more "elegant" solution would be to add an ilvl requirement to roulettes (in addition to being max level) to receive the bonus tomes from the roulette. If you aren't at the ilvl requirement, you can still participate for bonus exp, but no bonus tomes will be awarded for clearing the raid though roulette.

Of course, this won't dissuade ppl that are using the roulette for the exp bonus on jobs that aren't at level cap...

[Jeeqbit]

There's nothing wrong with this loophole because not enough people will care to use it.

L70 alliance raids may not be as common because L70 players have less reason to queue for a roulette when they don't need XP.

ARR is more common than HW because logic dictates there are more people at lower levels than at higher levels. It takes tenacity to get all the way through the MSQ to L70.

Recently there are additional reasons in the form of moogle tomestones and Crystal Tower being involved in the next expansion.

[Reeereee]

I mean, if people were manipulating the 50/60 queue that's a huge issue because new players need to complete those to advance the MSQ.

Inventing a completely new system because of long queues to farm glamour seems like a questionable use of resources.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Everyone's shouting for more ilevel-restrictions on dungeons as people are struggeling through their roulettes with undergeared partymembers, and now OP comes along and demands the very reverse.

I think minimum ilevels are a good thing. Sure, people can "abuse" this to get low level dungeons/raids, but whatever: If they want to do a 50, just let them.. I don't see this negativ. As far as my server concerns, 60ths/70ths raids still pop up in daily roulette and queing directly into one may take a bit longer but was never a problem either. Also the natural demand on 50ths should be way higher because of Moogle-Stones, so people would be sorted into 50th-raids anyway.

[Hasrat]

This solution...

What solution? You've proposed nothing that will actually "solve" this "problem."

You want players forced into higher raids at low ilvl, just so they can be kicked/carried? You're literally suggesting entire alliances be punished because, what exactly?

Alliance roulette exists, HW raids are there. Queue for the raids directly, and they'll pop eventually. There will never be enough players abusing the system to prevent you from running that content.

[Driavna]

Just going to point out that 50/60 roulette are not there for XP but for tomes, if you are levelling, please, skip that one.

[cougarel]

Just gonna throw my 2 cents : No!
The motives have been pointed by the other people which took the time to reply to this thread.
It's 2019 and people are demanding for strict rules to force other people to do stuff because they want something .

It's a community , you don't play alone in that content and something that affects you doesn't affect the other 23 or the data center.
I really do hope these kind of requests are not even taken into consideration to be forwarded and even thought about.

[Iscah]

It's a difficult issue, and of course we get the inverted problem in leveling roulette - where the lack of ilevel restrictions is probably necessary so people can find a party at all for the close-to-level-cap dungeons.

I wonder whether the game coding would let them implement some sort of shifting ilevel check - if you're Lv50-59 you need X ilevel to participate; reach Lv60 and the requirement goes up, so you need to be well-geared to participate.

No, they're right. Queue as a dps and watch your spot. It regularly only goes down by one or two spots, which means a lot of people are queueing directly for lvl 50 raids.

Edit: Wait, I'm thinking of main story queue, but the same principle likely applies. The main story dps queue is going down one or two spots at a time but I'm almost never getting the new player bonus which means a lot of people are queuing for it directly for mog tomes.

That goes both ways though. If I'm queuing with a character that can only access the Lv50 raids, I can see the queue in front of me go down slowly as people presumably get pulled into the Lv60/70 raids.

....Why "Force" The Crystal Tower with this "Loophole" when you can literally just Que into them?

To get their daily roulette bonus with minimal work.

I don't do it, and I don't agree with doing it, but that's what would motivate people to do it.

[Laphael]

I wonder whether the game coding would let them implement some sort of shifting ilevel check - if you're Lv50-59 you need X ilevel to participate; reach Lv60 and the requirement goes up, so you need to be well-geared to participate.

Thats exactly what we need. For all roulettes. It would solve the problem of undergeared ppl in leveling roulette and the problem of "forcing" lvl 50 content for the other roulettes.