Racial Imbalance Within Eorzea

[Halivel]

Oh there fine with players XD lol Kats infest Eorzea I was mainly talking MSQ.

And if lore truly has a hand in why theres barely any other racial rep in the main campaign then I genuanly wanna know what they are.

Well, let's see. I can't say for all but will light up what I do know.

Male Miqo'te - they have less population than females in general. Much less. Tip from Lodestone and Encyclopedia: Territoriality causes many of them to lead solitary lives, and males in particular shy from contact with others. For reasons yet unclear, female Miqo'te vastly outnumber males, a unique trait among Eorzea's races.
If we speak about Moon tribe, males there are even more rare than males in Sun clan.

Elves: Duskwight tribe is hardly represented at all. I can recall only one NPC from Lancer 1-30 level story. Why? Because they prefer to live in forest caves and caverns, avoiding cities. As for Wildwood tribe, they were pretty good represented in Ishgard. In Machinist 50-60 Story line there was a mention that in Ishgard they have a tradition, where women leave all their duties after marriage, so I assume that's the main reason why we do not see Elezen women in quests a lot.

Auri, I would say, were represented kind of equally, though not all NPC were in MSQ. But if we will recall exactly important NPC, we will have two females and two males in Azim Steppe and one (kind of two) females and one male in underwater village. Also Yugiri and some NPC in side quests, plus Auri from job quests, including DRK, WAR, NIN, WHM story lines, plus Alexander story line, etc. They are represented in their homelands as well because they are rarety outside of this and also not threatened well everywhere.

For Roes I have hard time to say, why we don't see a lot of them in MSQ. I don't see any reason for them to be really rare. Still, we did have some decent amount of them in Limsa quests, where at least Sea Wolves mainly live (Wiki mentions 17 notable Sea Wolves. Not that bad, actually. They are seem to be mostly males, though, and this is a puzzle for me).

[Mezzoforte]

Well, let's see. I can't say for all but will light up what I do know.

Male Miqo'te - they have less population than females in general. Much less. Tip from Lodestone and Encyclopedia: Territoriality causes many of them to lead solitary lives, and males in particular shy from contact with others. For reasons yet unclear, female Miqo'te vastly outnumber males, a unique trait among Eorzea's races.
If we speak about Moon tribe, males there are even more rare than males in Sun clan.

Elves: Duskwight tribe is hardly represented at all. I can recall only one NPC from Lancer 1-30 level story. Why? Because they prefer to live in forest caves and caverns, avoiding cities. As for Wildwood tribe, they were pretty good represented in Ishgard. In Machinist 50-60 Story line there was a mention that in Ishgard they have a tradition, where women leave all their duties after marriage, so I assume that's the main reason why we do not see Elezen women in quests a lot.

Auri, I would say, were represented kind of equally, though not all NPC were in MSQ. But if we will recall exactly important NPC, we will have two females and two males in Azim Steppe and one (kind of two) females and one male in underwater village. Also Yugiri and some NPC in side quests, plus Auri from job quests, including DRK, WAR, NIN, WHM story lines, plus Alexander story line, etc. They are represented in their homelands as well because they are rarety outside of this and also not threatened well everywhere.

For Roes I have hard time to say, why we don't see a lot of them in MSQ. I don't see any reason for them to be really rare. Still, we did have some decent amount of them in Limsa quests, where at least Sea Wolves mainly live (Wiki mentions 17 notable Sea Wolves. Not that bad, actually. They are seem to be mostly males, though, and this is a puzzle for me).

Probably because most of them male Roe specifically still have attachments to pirating. They are probably out plundering, lootin, and shootin garlean ships since they arent allowed to plunder or attack eorzean ships. Similar to how male miqote are rare in lore male ro are probably mostly out doin the pirate thing and a few not.

[Iscah]

As for Wildwood tribe, they were pretty good represented in Ishgard. In Machinist 50-60 Story line there was a mention that in Ishgard they have a tradition, where women leave all their duties after marriage, so I assume that's the main reason why we do not see Elezen women in quests a lot.

Ishgardian Elezen use Wildwood character models (with a few Duskwights mixed in) but they are culturally separate clans. Actual Wildwoods are from Gridania.

Also the "leaving work after marriage" is an Ishgardian thing, not Elezen. The character in question is Hyuran.

Alisaie and Ysayle have already been mentioned, but there's also minor scion Alianne, and Laniaitte at Camp Cloudtop.

[Vanitas]

What's a Roe?

[TheMightyMollusk]

What's a Roe?

A miserable little pile of secrets.

[Akonyl]

I wouldn't say Roes showing up in prominent story roles is especially rare, but they do seem to have a bit of trouble staying alive.

Gosetsu managed to get better, at least.

[JunkhogMakison]

Lorewise, male Miqo'te are reclusive and rarely leave their tribes. It's why they weren't playable in Legacy.

Au Ra are rare outside of Othard because the few that are seen before SB (aside from players, of course) are refugees. It's also mentioned that the few who made it to Ishgard were turned away, then hunted down and slaughtered, because their features made the paranoid Ishgardians think they were related to dragons. It's a big source of grief for Sidurgu (the dark knight job trainer from level 50 and up) and Alaqa (the big bad of the 50-60 white mage quests).

Alright those two make sense. I was never really big on the whole "there in hiding or are very shy and hail from a different land hence why you don't see them much" but it's at least an explanation. But what about Elven ladies and the Roes? I know there lurking around but they hardly ever show themselves safe for maybe 2 to 3 minor examples.

Also thank you for actually having a genuine conversation with me it means alot.

[AnnaRosa]

Specifically when it comes to the story.

seriously we need more Male Roes in everything, I actually took a hard look and honestly, other races arent really paid that much attention to.

Usually its humans, lalas, miqs, and maybe an elf dude but thats about it. Rarely do we see any elf ladies or Au Ra or heck we dont even see Fem Roes all that much.

On this we agree there should be more male Roes and now with Hrothgar male Roes will face extinction they are the most endangered specie in game.

There should be a collective plan to save the few males alive from Roe specie.

[Amnmaat]

I see a lot of people agreeing that male roes will disappear with Hrothgar coming around.
So what was the purpose of adding Hrothgar again? People seem to be defending adding Hrothgar then on another thread acknowledge how they weren't needed as they're basically Roegadyn 2.0

Make up your minds FFXIV community.
Where did the "Hrothgar as so different, they were needed" go now? What unique niche that Roegadyn didn't already fulfill go?

[Vidu]

I see a lot of people agreeing that male roes will disappear with Hrothgar coming around.
So what was the purpose of adding Hrothgar again? People seem to be defending adding Hrothgar then on another thread acknowledge how they weren't needed as they're basically Roegadyn 2.0

Make up your minds FFXIV community.
Where did the "Hrothgar as so different, they were needed" go now? What unique niche that Roegadyn didn't already fulfill go?

Personally I'd expect Roes to be "replaced" by Hrothgar as much as Au Ra replaced Mi'qote in the Othard-parts of the Stormblood-storyline - at least female Au Ra are fairly similar to female Mi'qote (rather short and more "cute" females). I'd suggest an "evolutionary metaphor": Hrothgar and Roe will share a niche and in certain places there will be Roe and in other Hrothgar, depending on whats the better fit for the story and the lore.

The argument "we didnt need Hrothgar if Roes could basically achieve the same" is pretty mute - using that logic we could say that we didnt need Roe in the first place because if you wanted to play a buff male character you could have rolled a Highlander and, while we're at it, Highlander are so close to Midlanders you could have just gone for one of those, so basically offering only Midlanders in character-creation would have been fine...
My point is: Hrothgar are different enough, design-wise, lore-wise, culture-wise (judging from what we know so far) that its worth having them to add to the diversity of the game.

On a more personal note I also dont understand why people are worried about potentially seeing less (male) Roes as PCs now... I'm extremly happy that there are only so few FemRoes, because it means that I wont run into my twin every dungeon I'm in (something I imagine must happen to Mi'qote all the time...)