Feeling punished for having alts...

[Avidria]

The RP community tends to centre around certain servers, outside of those servers, if they're doing it in private, I strongly suspect they're doing it that way to avoid trolls. The second most likely reason is they're ERPers...in which case you probably don't want them using /say. They're usually courteous in that respect. And as long as they're doing that, I say "to each their own".

If you're on a server like Balmung where it has a huge RP community, the trolling is much less of a problem, people tend to RP a lot more openly, and similarly, they do on Mateus. One of the reasons Balmung is so big is because it's the oldest RP server, world visit has at least alleviated that somewhat.

The reason places like this are so big is because there is a big hub for RPers and people have tended to nominate servers to start communities in.

But I started out on Gilgamesh, which has a smaller RP community (which was bigger when I started) and you'd attract a lot more in the way of trolls and it'd get annoying at times when you're trying to focus, so sometimes the simplest solution to avoid being harassed is to RP in party, though it's much less viable in an open community, where walk ups might happen.

People love trolling RPers because they think it's a weird hobby or have some misconceptions about RP and RPers, which they also find weird. Some people end up trolling because they don't like seeing RPers in their chat and it's their retaliation.

It's unfortunate. I used to RP back in WoW years ago, and we'd always get people showing up in known rp spots and just messing around or spamming abilities or doing nonsense "rp" where they can ofc magically see your name over your head and know things they shouldn't about your character. More mildly irritating than anything most of the time, but man.

Not liking a hobby is one thing, but harassing people because they do? That just makes you a jerk and a bully, or at absolute best, it makes you rude and immature.

Bit of a micro vent but yeah, I can understand why people would want their RP to be a little more private.

[Saefinn]

It's unfortunate. I used to RP back in WoW years ago, and we'd always get people showing up in known rp spots and just messing around or spamming abilities or doing nonsense "rp" where they can ofc magically see your name over your head and know things they shouldn't about your character. More mildly irritating than anything most of the time, but man.

Not liking a hobby is one thing, but harassing people because they do? That just makes you a jerk and a bully, or at absolute best, it makes you rude and immature.

Bit of a micro vent but yeah, I can understand why people would want their RP to be a little more private.

Ah, yeah, have had those.

Actually your rant reminds me, I did have one a few weeks ago. Showed up to our FC house as we run socials, they tried to do an armed robbery, threatened to burn the place down, then "burnt" it down, god modding. And then told us how bad we are at RP for not reacting to them burning the place. building. Trolling did not work, I went along with it up until the point they started god modding and it's canon that they were shot dead on leaving the building. We run a pirate theme there, so walking up to a captain and threatening them is well, gonna have you wind up dead anyway. If they were serious and generally thought godmodding an RP was how people do things, the moment they pull out a flame thrower is the moment they get shot, let alone be able to burn down a mansion.

There's like no reason to have an alt when you can be all classes/jobs on one character. Stop playing with dolls and play the game.

Hmm, which meme shall I go with?
"You don't pay my sub"
"Cool story bro"
or
"Don't tell me what to do, you're not my real mum"

[Floortank]

Having to play through all the MSQs again to get an alt up is a mega pain. But I get why that is. Otherwise it'd be trivial to get an alt to 80 and current. Maybe it shouldn't be.

[Saefinn]

Its like i said you don't need alts you can do everything with one, all you need is time and or a bit money. I met several ppl that changed their appearance every 1 or 2 days, so you don't even need an alt for that. Just find a nice place where the money grows on trees, i would suggest england because most ppl i met that did this came from there. Maybe its because the lot of rain that money trees can only grow there or maybe you can catch there some rare fishes that sells well or turn into money if you kiss them i dont know.

I'd say people have their own reasons for levelling alts. Not wanting to keep spending money on certain services is a reasonable one.

But also, this game has a big RP community, I'm an RPer and it's not uncommon for us to RP more than 1 character. I have several and the problems illustrated in this thread are apparent. And there are changes that could work better for alts.

Are they /needed/ per se? Like a lot of things, no. But also like a lot of things, they'd improve the experience, clear up problems for those who play alts, be nice to have and so on.

[LaylaTsarra]

I have a ton of alts and most are endgame. Sue me. I could honestly care less about those who don't understand really and play they aren't necessary card. To each their own. I'm happy playing them and I love this game. I'm always busy. You won't find me here complaining on the forum I have nothing to do.

I do wish SE made some things easier like sharing houses for example. A common mount bank and other common banks would have been nice but regardless I'll do my thing and hope one day the devs give us a little relief and make it easier for some things.

[Xatsh]

I see an alt in this game like choosing a new save file on another final fantasy. Aka a brand new game from ground 0.

I think you should be able to mail stuff to alts that is unbound. But as for sharing things like mounts, bound gear, costumes, achievements, story progression, ect. I would say no to that.

One of the games features of the final fantasy mmos, and in my opinion a really good one, is you can do everything from 1 character. I do not need Xatsh, Xatshy, XatshA, XatshB, XatshC to experience everything. The option is there for those who want to have just 1 character and the option is there to have multiple.

People who take the time to lvl alts already have a pretty big advantage due to how the weekly lockout system, I do not think they should get anything else besides maby some QoL with mailing other characters on the account and the ability to share houses with all characters on your account.

[Arillyn]

I see an alt in this game like choosing a new save file on another final fantasy. Aka a brand new game from ground 0.

I think you should be able to mail stuff to alts that is unbound. But as for sharing things like mounts, bound gear, costumes, achievements, story progression, ect. I would say no to that.

One of the games features of the final fantasy mmos, and in my opinion a really good one, is you can do everything from 1 character. I do not need Xatsh, Xatshy, XatshA, XatshB, XatshC to experience everything. The option is there for those who want to have just 1 character and the option is there to have multiple.

People who take the time to lvl alts already have a pretty big advantage due to how the weekly lockout system, I do not think they should get anything else besides maby some QoL with mailing other characters on the account and the ability to share houses with all characters on your account.

I've actually always viewed my alts just this way! Glad I'm not the only one. The only thing I would like to do is be able to share my house and mail between them. I personally don't worry about achievements and things like that between alts. My main is what I will focus on doing everything on. My alts are mainly just to play with friends located where my main can't travel (or for those on the same server as my main - for crafting reasons).

[Barraind]

Will its true that you only can 3 specialisations active at each, you have the possibility to change them if needed and lets be honest how often you do that?

Depends on the patch cycle.

I've had to switch a few times to make housing stuff / orch rolls recently, because they made those specialist locked again for no real reason (and its probably the reason ruby weapon orch roll sells for up to 100x the cost of the faded scroll). It takes about as long to switch around specializations as it does to go through the process of getting mats to a crafter alt in a different FC (which requires an additional alt to mule things back and forth).

I dont have alts because I want to have alts, I have alts because I have to have alt FC's with houses to do as much gardening (AND buying a few friends houses so i can use their gardens) and sub/ship voyaging as I want to do. (And to get weekly capped beast tribe mats and custom delivery fueled scrip mats for the .3 crafting/gathering gear)

If you told me I could pay gil to buy an instanced area I could crossbreed 20+ plots of crops on, I'd plop down tens of millions on it in a heartbeat. If I could do the same to let 1 FC have 8/16/24/64/ect active voyage slots, I'd do that too.

[Missbone]

I dont have alts because I want to have alts, I have alts because I have to have alt FC's with houses to do as much gardening (AND buying a few friends houses so i can use their gardens) and sub/ship voyaging as I want to do. (And to get weekly capped beast tribe mats and custom delivery fueled scrip mats for the .3 crafting/gathering gear)

So you basicly saying that you are blocking intentionally plots that could be used by other ppl with all your alts, because you are a greedy little lala that never gets enough and cares more about money than fairness.

The limit for subs and ships is there for a reason, i can understand that its tempting to use all the alts your can to get easy more mats and money with such a bad design system. In an ideal situation with competent game designers every account should only be able to have one player and fc house on each server, of course all your char would share the same house and bank than.

[Barraind]

So you basicly saying that you are blocking intentionally plots that could be used by other ppl with all your alts, because you are a greedy little lala

Yes.

I own multiple FC's that have houses for the sole purpose of having more submarines and garden plots. I'm also always open to buy another one from abandoned FC's if the price is right.

I got those plots the same way anyone else has the ability to, seeing as the last one got its house the last time wards were expanded. This is especially true on Coeurl, who still has a few open plots in the previously FC only wards.

I do not and will not apologize for jumping through the hoops of stupidity I had to jump through in order to garden and send out subs, seeing as its allowed for by the game. I'd have one for each of my Fc holding alts too if I could.

I also dont apologize for funding ~80mil worth of other peoples house purchases, in that time either. I at least use the houses I have, and fully decorate them, because its nice to look at.

I'm better for property values than 75% of homeowners in this game.