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    dinnertime's Avatar
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kytrin View Post
    The stuff you just described though... that is INCREDIBLY alt friendly. Especially compared to what we have now. Which is exactly none of those things. I would be ecstatic not to have to go through the agony of ARR S rank hunts for speed maps again. Or deal with hunting down aether currents twice. Those things on top of shared housing and the ability to mail stuff back and forth would be literally all I need.
    Oh yeah I'd LOVE to have all of that on my alts, but I just meant the MSQ progress being shared is unlikely. I still hope it happens though. Just bad wording on my part oops!
    But yeah, it's such a pain to do all of the mount speed things and aether currents, and I have to do that more than twice because I have a handful of alts... So I really wish they consider it.
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    K'rina Sato
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    Oh yeah I'd LOVE to have all of that on my alts, but I just meant the MSQ progress being shared is unlikely. I still hope it happens though. Just bad wording on my part oops!
    But yeah, it's such a pain to do all of the mount speed things and aether currents, and I have to do that more than twice because I have a handful of alts... So I really wish they consider it.
    Oh I gotcha now lol! Yeah, I'm with you. Unlikely, and not really a feature I'd want anyway. Sonja can make her own progress to catch up to K'rina. It's cool.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    Not a very helpful and original solution either.
    But it is a viable solution. There is very few reasons to actually have alt characters in this game when you can literally do every single job on one character.

    Be honest. The reason people want to be able to mail stuff to alts is to not have to buy extra retainers. Retainer fees do suck ( as someone who is a glam hoarder and full crafter)
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 12-08-2019 at 09:03 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    But it is a viable solution. There is very few reasons to actually have alt characters in this game when you can literally do every single job on one character.

    Be honest. The reason people want to be able to mail stuff to alts is to not have to buy extra retainers. Retainer fees do suck ( as someone who is a glam hoarder and full crafter)
    A great number of people in this thread explained why they like having alts but sure, go on with your imaginary world.
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    But it is a viable solution. There is very few reasons to actually have alt characters in this game when you can literally do every single job on one character.

    Be honest. The reason people want to be able to mail stuff to alts is to not have to buy extra retainers. Retainer fees do suck ( as someone who is a glam hoarder and full crafter)
    - Right now I have BiS on all healers class, 2 tanks class, 1 melee class, all casters classes, 2 ranges class. That would not be possible with a single weekly lockout on raid drop and tome cap.
    - I have 6 crafting specialist, instead of 3. I know people who have all 9, don't have to worry about swapping specialization.
    - Double dipping on Customer Deliveries. In fact, the reason I can afford my house all the way back in 2.0 was because I had 3 alts running Excalt daily to get sealant to sale. And only until recently due to SE decided to make crafting a "grind" again with the Sublime solutions, I had never had to grind collectable turn in or buy materia from the MB. 2 sets of Weekly delivery was more than enough to keep me supplied.
    - Play difference races without burning your money on fantasia once in a while. Retainer fee is chump change comparing to that. And I don't even use retainers inventory on my alts.

    Be honest - just because you can't think of what to do with alt, doesn't mean other people don't.


    I'm someone who never sold on the "benefit" of doing everything on one character, for the most part, it offers no benefit to my play style and in some case even detrimental.

    - Lvling suck: in most other MMO going through quest and story is the main way to lvling. I never really enjoy the lvling in this game, once get your first class to max-lvl via story content/quest, all subsequent class can only be leveled by repeating "grinding". Also I suspiciously think this is the reason the side quest structure in this game is very mundane and unrewarding.

    - Having more than one class max doesn't really matter much when you're still subjected to weekly locked out on pretty much EVERYTHING just like any other MMOs. I guess it's fine if someone just plays casually or "having a class at 80 just for the sake of having it", but if you're the type who enjoyed "actually" multiclass as in "invested" in it, the system in this game is pretty much a moot point.

    - Crafting&Gathering: while at first I thought it's nice to have everything on one characters. But this is the reason why Omni-crafters are so powerful in this game in term of controlling the market. Or were - it's fairly obvious SE see this as a problem and just went full casual in term of accessibility, and I fear it'll just create the opposite problems and that is making thing stagnant. The market economy of an MMO has always rely on inter-dependent between players to stay healthy, and right now we have a fairly good recipe to kill just that.
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    Kyssa Shay
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    Reaper Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    But it is a viable solution. There is very few reasons to actually have alt characters in this game when you can literally do every single job on one character.

    Be honest. The reason people want to be able to mail stuff to alts is to not have to buy extra retainers. Retainer fees do suck ( as someone who is a glam hoarder and full crafter)
    I can't speak for others, but this is not the reason I want to be able to mail stuff to my alt. I want to send gear from my main to my alt, gil, etc. I want to send stuff I get on my alt to my main as that's where all my MB activity happens. I don't even have the retainers unlocked on my alt.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    I can't speak for others, but this is not the reason I want to be able to mail stuff to my alt. I want to send gear from my main to my alt, gil, etc. I want to send stuff I get on my alt to my main as that's where all my MB activity happens. I don't even have the retainers unlocked on my alt.
    And if 1 person had 7 "alt" (1 main, 7 alt) characters per account they could mail stuff to that would be at least 14 extra free retainers (did they ever add a third? up to 21?) they'd have access to.. Not to mention the bot activity that could also abuse said mailings.

    Look, I despise paid retainers as it is, but I can see SE's reasoning here for not allowing you to mail stuff to yourself.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    K'rina Sato
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    But it is a viable solution. There is very few reasons to actually have alt characters in this game when you can literally do every single job on one character.

    Be honest. The reason people want to be able to mail stuff to alts is to not have to buy extra retainers. Retainer fees do suck ( as someone who is a glam hoarder and full crafter)
    That... literally has nothing to do with it whatsoever? I have a full team of retainers on my main as is, and I want to send stuff to Sonja because K'rina is further along in levels and crafting and I happen to like making life easier when it comes to catching her up on things. I'm baffled how you even came to this conclusion?
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupa View Post
    I have a simple solution, just don’t use alts.
    I have a simpler solution, stop making idiotic posts.
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    Oria Dawn
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    White Mage Lv 77
    I would just like a retainer that can hold items for characters of the same server.
    Make it a Moogle Retainer and sell it in the Mogstation like they do with additional Retainers.
    Have the Moogle Retainer only do storage.
    It's a Moogle; Holding items for you is enough for it, venturing scares it, and it's not getting enough Kupo nuts to want to sell things. That's the Moogle's "excuse".
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