Thread: BLU tanking in 5.0

I haven't played BLU in a while and in all honestly I'd rather the job get striped out and remade, but...

With the changes to the way Tank stance works for the normal jobs do you think BLU's Mighty Guard will get the same treatment? I think it reduces your damage by what? 40% or something?

Would this even matter if it got the same treatment? Would BLUs still take damage like a toothpick with this skill on? How would they give you the Tank Mastery Trait?

Thoughts?

I have an impression that (if Mighty Guard would still exist for 5.1) they'd likely remove only the damage penalty from it, otherwise they'd need to have a REALLY good excuse to explain why it should stay there.

If I were in the devs' shoes for Blue Mage though, unless they were going to make a Blue Mage/Limited Job-only duty roulette, I'd likely scrap Mighty Guard completely and buff any defensive spells to compensate.

I don't see why they'd change it.

Mighty Guard has its penalty because it's taking DPS job damage and turning it into Tank job damage.

Thus there's little reason to change Mighty Guard. It's not like it matters given that "BLU Tanking" is essentially just White Wind spam.

The skill is supposed to be a trade off, becoming a makeshift Tank at the cost of being a DPS. Rather than being a superfluous "Stance" that isn't used like with actual Tanks. If the 70% damage penalty was removed, then you'd just have all BLU's running around with Mighty Guard on all the time for free damage mitigation.

Originally Posted by Deceptus

SE needs to figure out if they really want to make this OP solo job as OP as they promised.

I hope they do. If it's really limited and can't be used in current content, then there's no point in trying to balance it, it should be OP enough to solo raid bosses by itself (outside of the usual two hits of X will instant kill you).

Originally Posted by ReiMakoto

I still think if they are so goddamn intent on keeping BLU the way it is and not overhauling it they should add a tickbox under the join party in progress tickbox that is "Allow limited Jobs in party". That way BLU actually has a chance of queuing for stuff to get its dungeon/trial abilities.

The dev argument to that unfortunately is that it would let players cheese leveling, trial and mentor roulettes by removing higher-level (usually more difficult) options that Blue Mage wouldn't be high enough level for.

Ultimately, I'm still convinced that Blue Mage would either get its own duty roulette or be tweaked so hard to be a sensible DPS that spells like Mighty Guard would either be altered or removed.

Originally Posted by Kalise

If the 70% damage penalty was removed, then you'd just have all BLU's running around with Mighty Guard on all the time for free damage mitigation.

This would only be a problem if BLUs were actually in competition of any kind with other jobs. They aren't. The sky's the limit with what ridiculous things BLU could accomplish - and it was implied that very fact was why the job was made "limited" in the first place, so that they'd be free of such restrictions.

So, yeah, 70% mitigation with no downside. Sure, why not? Even with that, folks aren't likely going to turn to BLUs to cheese content, when they can just unsync and become way more OP than a BLU, for anything a BLU would be useful in anyway...

Pretty much only the Masked Carnivale would be affected by this, and since that caters solely to BLUs they can just balance the Carnivale against it.

Originally Posted by LineageRazor

This would only be a problem if BLUs were actually in competition of any kind with other jobs.

Not really.

It would be a problem in any kind of BLU related content where it's supposed to be designed where they're not running around with a free 40% damage reduction 24/7 with the ability to activate said skill before zoning in.

I.e. Masked Carnivale.

There's plenty of "Don't heal any damage" and "Don't use X skills" and other odd quirks to deal with there... All of which can be cheesed if Mighty Guard was free.

Originally Posted by Kazrah

Ultimately, I'm still convinced that Blue Mage would either get its own duty roulette or be tweaked so hard to be a sensible DPS that spells like Mighty Guard would either be altered or removed.

Hmm...

Mighty Guard altered you say?

*Looks at every previous iteration of Mighty Guard"

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