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  1. #21
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    I am not happy with the change of AST, but I also agree the poll are not very meaningful. The the poll population is relatively small compare to our sub player base. The poll is simply yes or no, anyone can vote not just those who have get at least one heal to 70, and lacking proper way to stop repreat voting.
    And since someone mention brexit. This is exactly the issue, I am unhappy about AST change because how all the card turn into dps boost, other might be upset about their dps skill for dump down.
    All this poll show is just some ppl in the forum are not happy healer change. The why and what is not address in the poll, we don’t even know how many voter have a healer
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  2. #22
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    I am not happy with the change of AST, but I also agree the poll are not very meaningful.
    On a statistical basis, you're wrong. With the number of responses, it's statistically valid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    and lacking proper way to stop repreat voting.
    It's IP restricted so you can't re-vote from the same devices on the same network.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    The poll is simply yes or no, anyone can vote not just those who have get at least one heal to 70,
    Many polls don't make you qualify yourself specifically. Would it have been better if they said, "Are you a current healer, have you healed in the past, or do you ever plan to heal in the future" Absolutely, but it's not necessary. The response would have likely been in the high 90's or even 100% because most people who respond to that poll would be healers.

    Just like most who respond to a tank poll would be tanks.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 06-15-2019 at 10:30 PM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  3. #23
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    Knoahl's Avatar
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    Teah Bloodwrath
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    Ragnarok
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    I'm still finding it amusing they made the healer npcs in Trusts DPS in their downtime endlessly, if that doesn't say what the devs think truly IDEK.
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  4. #24
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    I would have loved to see Gravity spam by Urianger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
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    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.

  5. #25
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    Ea Sin
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Honestly this could be full of non healer mains. Not really worth much without more info.
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  6. #26
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    Raul Prower
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    Dragoon Lv 71
    I'm not a healer main, but I have played healers in casual content as well as EX and Savage.

    So I'd argue that I'm "qualified enough"
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  7. #27
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Agreed.

    I'd love to see one of the healers pushed down the route of spending their spare GCDs augmenting and buffing. Whilst it'd be tough to balance (Which is likely why it's not been done), it'd at least give an option for those that don't want to be expected to sit there throwing rocks for the majority of an encounter.

    Both Dancer and RDM were kind of a wasted opportunity on this front really =(

    And @OP

    Yeah the poll results make sense really. The healer changes aren't calamitously bad. It's more that they are highly underwhelming from the angle of high level play. For a casual player a lot of the stuff is actually pretty good. WHM will be a cakewalk to heal with and SCH should be more approachable as well. AST has a few deeper issues IMHO but if nothing else, it's card mechanics and cooldowns are a lot more streamlined now. The new Sleeve Draw is a massive improvement.

    This isn't a repeat of AST in 3.0 or SCH in 4.0 thankfully. It's just.... Meeeh =(
    I do wonder though if the law of diminishing returns will apply. If damage doesn't end up scaling up enough to require said healing, I foresee it being a much louder talking point this time around because of how much emphasise they kept putting on supposedly healing. We needs only look at the initial excitement people had when they thought the DPS might die. While you'll see have those stubborn people who refuse to DPS no matter what, I really think we'll reach a point where Healer in Need becomes the de facto for roulettes.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  8. #28
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    Nixx Loha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    On a statistical basis, you're wrong. With the number of responses, it's statistically valid.

    It's IP restricted so you can't re-vote from the same devices on the same network.
    People can use a VPN and actually vote multiple times.

    As to the poll.

    I would say that a 2 option poll (yes/no) is really poor to judge the topic on.

    The question could be interpreted differently by different players.
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  9. #29
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comfort View Post
    People can use a VPN and actually vote multiple times.
    I highly doubt many would actually go through the trouble to manipulate it that much. I'm sure people might now that you bring it up though.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    By looking at them and using your brain to think, that's how.
    Fur looks weird until you know how it feels. Did ARR teach you nothing? Feel. Think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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