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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    But for a user to exclaim the use of one God is an offense, yet make no quarrel with the uses of other Gods, is hypocrisy by the very definition. That's the point I'm trying to make, the Christian God does not get any special rules over any other God....either it's all ok or none of it is.
    I might have misread this, but ta I did quote the wrong person
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    But for a user to exclaim the use of one God is an offense, yet make no quarrel with the uses of other Gods, is hypocrisy by the very definition. That's the point I'm trying to make, the Christian God does not get any special rules over any other God....either it's all ok or none of it is.
    It's favoritism, not hypocrisy. In fact, since Christianity is considered to be a monotheistic religion, it would actually be hypocritical for a Christian to view the deities of other religion in equal standing to the deity of the Bible while still claiming to be a monotheistic Christian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    It's favoritism, not hypocrisy. In fact, since Christianity is considered to be a monotheistic religion, it would actually be hypocritical for a Christian to view the deities of other religion in equal standing to the deity of the Bible while still claiming to be a monotheistic Christian.
    That's a fair point. As an Agnostic with no specific religious affiliation, I view it as a level playing field. As such I think it's fine for any and all Gods to be included in any game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    That's a fair point. As an Agnostic with no specific religious affiliation, I view it as a level playing field. As such I think it's fine for any and all Gods to be included in any game.
    But this is moot because no actual gods are present in the making of this fantasy game. It clearly draws inspiration from western history, and that's why you have institutions like the Inquisition, which is based on various institutions that were set up between the twelfth and nineteenth centuries with the intent of eliminating heresy as defined by the Catholic church. However, the Inquisition in FFXIV has nothing whatsoever to do with Catholicism. As far as I know, no one was ever burned at the stake for allying themselves with dragons. Claiming that this game is anti-Christianity is like claiming that Game of Thrones is opposed to the British monarchy. Queen Cersei Lannister has as much to do with Queen Elizabeth II as the FFXIV Inquisition has to do with the Catholic church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Claiming that this game is anti-Christianity is like claiming that Game of Thrones is opposed to the British monarchy. Queen Cersei Lannister has as much to do with Queen Elizabeth II as the FFXIV Inquisition has to do with the Catholic church.
    Yeah, that is entirely my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloWingMetatron View Post
    That's a fair point. As an Agnostic with no specific religious affiliation, I view it as a level playing field. As such I think it's fine for any and all Gods to be included in any game.
    I believe in the flying spaghetti monster as my god.

    I demand he get included in the game.
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    I mean right, remember how in the bible Jesus said "you shall not question our holy lady Halone and shall not forgive the dragons" and then SE come with this in HW, attacking good christians anti-dragons values. What if some poor souls get mislead by it and start consorting with dragons...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigiria View Post
    I mean right, remember how in the bible Jesus said "you shall not question our holy lady Halone and shall not forgive the dragons" and then SE come with this in HW, attacking good christians anti-dragons values. What if some poor souls get mislead by it and start consorting with dragons...
    The sickness, it must be purged!
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    I think OP might be self inserting their personal beliefs too much into a work of fiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Waiting on Primal Jesus to make an entrance so we can CRUSH him and his followers like we do with Gods from many many other religions.

    Christians feeling persecuted always amuses me considering the past 2000 years of history and even nearly any hot topic in the news today which is always "something something should be outlawed, so and so shouldn't have rights to..., something something cause my christian values something something"
    To be fair, and saying this as an agnostic/atheist, in some parts of the world Christians are still being persecuted. The recent Easter Sri Lankan bombings, for example. Not sure if its something to be amused about :/
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