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  1. #1
    Player
    Fellgon's Avatar
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    Tempest Moon
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    i don't think healing would be so boring if there was actually more to it. mana management is a joke and barely ever factors into anything. everything is all DPS checks in raids. at the very most you have to make sure the tank doesn't die from a tankbuster and heal raidwide dmg
    I think players see healing boring cause everyone today know how to play role, but ive meet some others who dont see healer role easy, and they dont know how to manage mana to last till boss death.
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    Last edited by Fellgon; 06-13-2019 at 01:14 PM.

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    Selova's Avatar
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JunkhogMakison View Post
    You sure do like to say claim alot. Alright then educate me, since your obviously the all knowing expert please tell me how I'm wrong. Also the last poster did not specifically say they played either.

    So go ahead back up your "claims" ^_^ ♡
    I'll gladly tell you how you're wrong, considering I've been playing the game for 14 years. There was no customization for how you played and you were pigeonholed into 1 spec for raiding and the only time as a healer or a tank you switched to your dps spec was for farming materials for flasks/potions/food/soul shards for said raids.


    If you played a warrior you tanked, if you played a priest/druid/paladin you healed. The talent tree did not offer ways to customize since I know this is what you're referring to when it comes to classes not being limited or having customization.


    You picked the same cookie cutter build to optimize the role you performed. You putting points into 1% more haste or %1 more crit wasn't even noticeable due to how badly gear was itemized with nonsensical stat lineups.


    There wasn't this in-depth customization for how you played, specd or geared. You either did what was optimal or you were not a good player.


    People often like to cherry pick their nostalgic memories they have and try to claim things were different from how they actually were except in your case you've clearly never played or experienced vanilla WoW so you're just spouting the same nonsense that people before you have regurgitated.


    You dont get to make blanket statements like "People really dont want to heal." Just because you decided to browse the healer uproar on reddit or the healer forums for a few hours and you have no basis or evidence to back up these claims.


    My advice: Stop making nonsensical threads with claims about how you think healers want to be played.
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    Zylo Wilhams
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    Goblin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    My wife actually prefers when the fights are healing intensive. She always says if she wanted to do she'd have leveled a dps.
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    Vivette Ayakashi
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 80
    As a "WoW Refugee" I find it really funny Classic WoW is being heralded as an example of class diversity. Molten Core, 40man. If you have a healing spec you're a healer or you're not raiding. Period. Paladin? Healer. Druid? Healer. Priest? Healer. Don't get me started on Fire Mages.

    Edit: Don't get me started on tanks either. You've a tank spec? Too bad. Only Warrior Tank is meta. And Warrior Tank meta persisted until WoW's 2nd xpac WotLK.
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    Last edited by DeusOcha; 06-13-2019 at 01:15 PM.

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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    my experience with wow as healer is probably one of the worst i ever had in mmorpg.

    found a party, when inside, still typing "hello" everyone just went on their way. like really on their own way, tank just charge ahead non stop, 1 DPS went to the left, the other 2 went to the right like wtf is going on? who should i follow?

    i got left behind because everyone moving like their house is on fire, i was behind like 7 seconds and they start vote kick me out, loading screen, back to dungoen enterance.

    seriously, wtf is happening lol. and i experience a similar stuff like that 3 times. delete the game, unsub it even though i still have 14 days left, back to FF14, never look other mmo again.
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    my experience with wow as healer is probably one of the worst i ever had in mmorpg.

    found a party, when inside, still typing "hello" everyone just went on their way. like really on their own way, tank just charge ahead non stop, 1 DPS went to the left, the other 2 went to the right like wtf is going on? who should i follow?

    i got left behind because everyone moving like their house is on fire, i was behind like 7 seconds and they start vote kick me out, loading screen, back to dungoen enterance.

    seriously, wtf is happening lol. and i experience a similar stuff like that 3 times. delete the game, unsub it even though i still have 14 days left, back to FF14, never look other mmo again.
    I had the exact same experience but as a tank.
    They just rushed the dungeon before i was able to type anything. xD

    Thats how "performance over fun" attitude does for a game i guess.
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    my experience with wow as healer is probably one of the worst i ever had in mmorpg.

    found a party, when inside, still typing "hello" everyone just went on their way. like really on their own way, tank just charge ahead non stop, 1 DPS went to the left, the other 2 went to the right like wtf is going on? who should i follow?

    i got left behind because everyone moving like their house is on fire, i was behind like 7 seconds and they start vote kick me out, loading screen, back to dungoen enterance.

    seriously, wtf is happening lol. and i experience a similar stuff like that 3 times. delete the game, unsub it even though i still have 14 days left, back to FF14, never look other mmo again.
    The game is not very new player friendly even at low levels. I'd guess it's because there aren't many new players in a game that is shrinking, and because the game encourages alt characters so every lowbie is assumed to be one.

    Dungeons begin from zoning in since there is no Protect to cast and no barrier ring holding the party still. You're meant to type on the move or not at all, place your heal on the tank (it won't give you aggro), put him on focus target and follow him everywhere. Ignore the dps unless they are smart enough to be in your range and stay close to the tank while he melts the dungeon with overpowered AoE. And pick the movement speed increasing talents. Go go go!

    It's quite a different mentality compared to dungeon runs here.
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    Teah Bloodwrath
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 71
    Naturually gearing up, I want to be able to feel my gear power via various means as a healer... healing my tank to full with a barrier and being forced to afk until the barrier runs out hardly sounds engaging.

    As ilvl increases healing becomes increasingly more trivial, and now dpsing when I'm geared from playing lots is going to make me feel extremly bored. FF just isn't hard enough or fast enough to encourage pure healing, especially as we gain power.
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    The game is not very new player friendly even at low levels
    this, and not just low level, for anyone who doing it "first time" is pretty much "catch up or kick" rule at this point. everyone even first timer is expected to know what to do, where to go, how to do, if you late or left behind by 7-10 seconds margin its almost guarantee you will be vote kick (especially if you are tank or healer).

    and i like how when they vote kick, all of them didnt say any word. just initate vote, yes yes yes, loading screen you're out lol
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    Clover Blake
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I guess impopular opinion here, but I love pure healing @x@
    In fact, I tried SCH up to lv 40+ and got bored because I was more expected to DPS than heal. The fairy did all the healing on her own!

    Also, I'm very confused as to what the problem is supposed to be with WHM. Unless there's anything I'm missing, I understood that WHM is not going to lose Stone, (individual) Aero, or Holy, so we'll be able to dps the same as before.
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