Crafting and Gathering need a QoL change asap.

[Vitallian]

SO all crafters are at 51. I'm about to give up this crap. It's so infuriating in this game to have to sit there and gather all of these things that you need. I don't mean running and gathering them either. CRAFTING in this game has officially got me at my limit of giving a damn about it. Mats locked behind timed nodes or "hidden", things being too expensive all the time, this is actual stupidity. Leveling any of this stuff takes ages and the FACT that you need to use something from basically every other damn class to make one thing is absolutely obnoxious.

I expect to take a lot of flak for this and I don't care. There's no point in lvling a crafter if it doesn't feel fun or rewarding and right now it absolutely doesn't. I've crafted in every game i've played MMO wise and no other game makes me want to jam a lego through my cerebral cortex more than this one.

[Liam_Harper]

There's no point in lvling a crafter if it doesn't feel fun or rewarding.

Fair enough.

So why are you leveling a crafter?

[Vitallian]

Fair enough.

So why are you leveling a crafter?

Because I wanted to make my own gear. But after getting to 51 and seeing the way everything is done...it's not fun nor is it worth it. Someone wants to craft? Fine go for it, craft your brains out, but the way it is set up now? Nah, it needs changed. I always wondered why not a lot of people did this and I understand it now. It's so drawn out and blatantly annoying that no one in their right mind would dare attempt it.

[Vanitas]

Crafting is fine. It just requires this neat trick you might not know called E F F O R T. Give it a shot!

[DumdogsWorld]

I actually like the fact that crafting is gated behind a time-consuming and sometimes-frustrating leveling and gearing process. It means that not just anybody can be a max leveled omnicrafter. It's not difficult to become one, but every person who fits in the category has something in common - they're willing to grind.

[Windsun33]

I actually like the fact that crafting is gated behind a time-consuming and sometimes-frustrating leveling and gearing process. It means that not just anybody can be a max leveled omnicrafter. It's not difficult to become one, but every person who fits in the category has something in common - they're willing to grind.

As much as I get frustrated at things like timed nodes for mats, I agree.
I had max level crafters in EQ, EQ2, and WOW - and for the most part it was a joke. It was so easy, especially in EQ2 and WOW that it was essentially worthless. In EQ2 mats were so easy to get that the guild mat chest was often maxed out on many - and the limit was 10,000 per mat. Once again, mats were almost worthless along with almost all crafted gear. The only exceptions that made any crafted gear "rare" was that some mats were locked behind raids - and I really hated that.

[Seraphor]

I actually like the fact that crafting is gated behind a time-consuming and sometimes-frustrating leveling and gearing process. It means that not just anybody can be a max leveled omnicrafter. It's not difficult to become one, but every person who fits in the category has something in common - they're willing to grind.

Only those who have been playing the game for years.
Newbies, HAH! Good luck, come back in 5 years.

[Thagyr]

Only those who have been playing the game for years.
Newbies, HAH! Good luck, come back in 5 years.

Not really. The game has enough catchup mechanisms in place with Ixal, Moogle and Namazu crafting XP, challenge logs, leves, and collectibles to give boosts. The path to omni-crafter will take a month if you are dedicated. I got the omnicraft and gatherer level in Heavensward in that amount of time. I just came back to Stormblood last month and my miner/botanist is already 70 and my crafters are steadily going up.

[Seraphor]

Not really. The game has enough catchup mechanisms in place with Ixal, Moogle and Namazu crafting XP, challenge logs, leves, and collectibles to give boosts. The path to omni-crafter will take a month if you are dedicated. I got the omnicraft and gatherer level in Heavensward in that amount of time. I just came back to Stormblood last month and my miner/botanist is already 70 and my crafters are steadily going up.

When can I fit in the tomestone grind, relic weapon and mount farms?

Gatherers I admit are very easy to level, especially once you get to Namazu, but crafting seems an insurmountable mountain. I've got CUL to level 40 odd and I'm sick of crafting already.

[kidalutz]

I actually like the fact that crafting is gated behind a time-consuming and sometimes-frustrating leveling and gearing process. It means that not just anybody can be a max leveled omnicrafter. It's not difficult to become one, but every person who fits in the category has something in common - they're willing to grind.

OCD helps in this regard just now learning how much I like goldsmithing.