Launcher installs Bonjour...

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

yeah, so what gives? why is this happening? i uninstall, and the FFXIV Launcher re-installs it. ZERO COMPREHENSION!

[Anienai]

Freakin lalafells.

[Crystal_Raven]

yeah, so what gives? why is this happening? i uninstall, and the FFXIV Launcher re-installs it. ZERO COMPREHENSION!

FFXIV launcher is based on Internet Explorer.

Internet explorer uses bonjour.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

FFXIV launcher is based on Internet Explorer.

Internet explorer uses bonjour.

Bonjour is Apple software, and Internet Explorer doesn't use it. Windows doesn't even use it. only other Apple software uses it. other Apple software, and other niche software that uses some of the Bonjour services. like AirPower alternatives and such.

either way... i sure as hell didn't agree to having bundle-ware installed.

[Paladinleeds]

Bonjour is Apple software, and Internet Explorer doesn't use it. Windows doesn't even use it. only other Apple software uses it. other Apple software, and other niche software that uses some of the Bonjour services. like AirPower alternatives and such.

either way... i sure as hell didn't agree to having bundle-ware installed.

"Bonjour for Windows also adds zeroconf capabilities to Internet Explorer, and provides a zeroconf implementation to Java VMs"

It's possible FFXIV is using those zeroconf abilities provided by Bonjour.

[Crystal_Raven]

Bonjour is Apple software, and Internet Explorer doesn't use it. Windows doesn't even use it. only other Apple software uses it. other Apple software, and other niche software that uses some of the Bonjour services. like AirPower alternatives and such.

either way... i sure as hell didn't agree to having bundle-ware installed.

Bonjour for Windows adds zeroconf abilities to IE and provides implementation to JVMS, and FF14 launcher relies on that to function correctly.

Edit: You agreed when you agreed you install it.

A lot of other things use it besides apple software.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

yeah, but it only does that when Apple or Apple-related software needs it to be there. Windows itself doesn't need Bonjour for zeroconf. is the FFXIV Launcher somehow actually Apple software in disguise? i am sorry, but this still isn't making sense. and, why now? why suddenly we need this installed? why does everything work just fine when blocking the install? it is clearly not needed. something fishy is happening. there is zero reason as of to why Square Enix needs users to have Bonjour installed.

i personally won't EVER agree to install any software from Apple. they can't be trusted. i remember back when they bundled adware and crap with Bonjour. hell... their user agreements used to be iron clad, that they pretty much owned your life for accepting.


hell, we don't even get a notice from SE... 'hey, we are bundling third-party software with ours'. nothing. again, i didn't agree to bundle-ware. i can't find anywhere that says i agreed to bundle-ware, or third-party software not from Square Enix.

[Bearded]

People are still using Internet Explorer?

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

People are still using Internet Explorer?

sadly yes. as mentioned above, the FFXIV Launcher uses Internet Explorer. and plenty of those silly Flash games that certain places operate too. like they have that mini-client you can download and use. they all use Internet Explorer. which is really really bad. just gives them an out to never ever switch up to Unity when Flash is removed from all common browsers.

Internet Explorer will likely always maintain support for Flash, just as it does for Java. and since it is core to Windows, Microsoft will never remove. forever enabling those certain hosts to fallback on it and never updating to Unity. Flash is too slow and buggy, but they don't care. LOL

[DumdogsWorld]

People are still using Internet Explorer?

Reminds me of a friend of mine who claims to have "completely uninstalled" Internet Explorer from his computer using 3rd party tools.

It doesn't work like that. I know. I've seen the code. Both retail Windows and Windows CE 5, the latter which is open source under a restrictive license.

99% of the code that makes Internet Explorer what it is is also bundled into Windows Explorer. The Internet Explorer executable pretty much just acts like a "client" for that functionality.

Every time you go to browse the folders on your hard drive - surprise! Same code.

Although, the motion to eliminate the Internet Explorer executable as a major browser is for the best. Insecure code is less likely to be exploited with offline use.