Revelations from the Shadowbringers E3 Trailer

[TinyRedLeaf]

Lolwut?

On the bright side (every pun intended), I now have a good, lore-based reason to continue as summoner in 5.0 and beyond.

I had been thinking of switching to another job, possibly gunbreaker, to role-play the need for "darkness" in this new world the WoL has arrived in. But, as it turns out, being a summoner when he hears this revelation would be quite stunning, and oddly appropriate at the same time.

[JeanneOrnitier]

Someone remind me if we have Elidibus's origin story yet? Because I think it would be interesting if he was originally from this supposed pre-Sundering society. If he was there to see Zodiark and Hydaelyn when they were first summoned together, that could explain why he's more about balance than other Ascians.

[Cilia]

Sin Eater attacks have been going on for a century, so the Warriors of Darkness were definitely dealing with them prior to their appearance unless time flows differently there. They're also confirmed to be basically Light-type Voidsent, although the exact manner of their creation seems to be a bit different (infecting a living being with primordial light vs. "just" twisting what it already is).

Close inspection of Solus using his Ascian rune-mask has some resemblance to Zalera's glyph, confirming he is Emet-Selch. He is also on the First, meaning he is unlikely to be possessing or influencing Varis' actions throughout Shadowbringers.

Hydaelyn AND Zodiark are both primals?! ... well. Taking context into account, if Solus speaks truth they are indeed the will of celestial bodies, making them sort of sentient versions of IX world crystals. But... is the Hydaelyn we know really the will of the planet, or just an impostor brought forth from the desires of Varis' supposed "original perfect race?"

As always... for every answer, three questions.

[Gula]

That "Holy-" guy had it right. I mean. I'm sure everything I want to say has been said, but still. Holy heck.

[ObsidianFire]

I remember how many red herrings and mis-information was in the 4.0 game-play trailer...

I'm not trusting anything anyone says... particularly if they are an Ascian...

[Kusanagi7]

if true they are primals
we are tempered by hydaelyn ass ifrit pointed out
we are primal slayers

that sound about right?

[Addicted]

The Elemental iconography is interesting. I don't really know anything about Elementals. Are they completely independent from Hydaelyn and thus could actually predate her? Maybe she's not a pure primal but rather a hybrid.
If I had to wildly speculate with my very lacking lore knowledge, I'd say Ascian society, which was a pre-split civilization, created Hydaelyn/Zodiark, maybe as a method to govern the laws of the aetherial sea and transcend death, much like what they can already do and what the Echo allows. Regardless of what it was, they had an end goal that needed a being greater than themselves. Hydaelyn however, like Alexander, didn't agree with whatever her creator's endgame was and rebelled, setting the current events in motion.

[Naria]

So existential questions about Zodiark and Hydaelyn are all well and good but on second viewing this is my favorite revelation from the E3 launch trailer.

[Rannie]

I honestly, dont trust that now cloned once dead Emperor of Garlemald. I mean he has a bigger track record of lying than telling the truth. Also, if they are both primals, and we are tempered, I dont think it's the exact same as what say ifrit, titan, garuda and ramuh does.

I mean think about it we've seen how atleast how the ones tempered by them act and well we don't act at all the same. Hell going along the dark knight quests we were on the verge of telling Hydaelyn to go screw herself... so while what he said was interesting ... I'm going to wait for more.

[Mansion]

All summoners main now ask "Hydealyn / Zodiark Egi, when?"

I'll bring a bit of something relevant after that. comparing French and english trailer, the only info I could process at 5 AM is that big fat dude talking about feeding people to Sin Eaters (Valtri ?) is explicitly refered as the Governor of Eulmore.

This contrast filter is not making things easy for me