So...about that Shadowbringers trailer.

[KageTokage]

It confirmed some suspicions I had, such as the Sin Eaters being light-corrupted lifeforms and Eulmore being involved in some kind of pact with them in exchange for its relative safety.

That stinger (Assuming it's actually the truth, considering who it's coming from...) changes my perspective on everything, though, and makes me think there might be even greater forces at play then Hydaelyn and Zodiark.

[KageTokage]

Whoops. Forgot it's Anonymoose's job to makes threads on this stuff.

[Anonymoose]

9:55 PM EST jinx; I owe you a coke.

[Sylvain]

I dont see why people are surprised that the sin eater used to be people / living beings. I mean, that was already the case with the voidsent from the 13th Shard.so I don't see why it would have been any different this time especially that light and dark keep being portrayed as the same thing just opposed. Like positive and negative charges to put it simply.

[Yuyuka3]

I dont see why people are surprised that the sin eater used to be people / living beings. I mean, that was already the case with the voidsent from the 13th Shard.so I don't see why it would have been any different this time especially that light and dark keep being portrayed as the same thing just opposed. Like positive and negative charges to put it simply.

I think the surprise comes from us being told in 3.X that a Void of Light, unlike a Void of Darkness, does not have any living things in it. The Void of Darkness only corrupts lifeforms and turns them into Voidsent, it doesn't erase them, but they are aether deprived (also feeding on living aether???) and thus want to be summoned into our world to have something to feed on; just for them, as I understand it, aether deprivation just causes them pain/discomfort/hunger, and doesn't erase them outright? Under this premise, Sin Eaters essentially being living beings feels like a retcon of how the Void of Light works; if it erases all light and just leaves a perfect, blank space, then how come Sin Eaters are essentially light-elemental Voidsent?

However, thinking about it came to the conclusion that one does not preclude the other. It is explicitly stated in the trailer that Sin Eaters need living aether to survive. However, if the Void of Light erases all live, then how do Sin Eaters survive? They would have nothing to feed of, so there's a chance that they themselves will cease to exist in a Void of Light, bringing us back to the first claim that nothing exists in a Void like that. It is possible, though we might never know.

[MrThinker]

Just to clarify we were never told this in-game but by Koji himself during an interview.

[YianKutku]

Just to clarify we were never told this in-game but by Koji himself during an interview.

Specifically Gamer Escape's Lorecast 9. (Most questions I've seen about lore in general that have "I saw the answer in an interview" seem to have that interview be Lorecasts 7 or 9, for some reason.)

Gamer Escape: Would a “Light-born” void differ from the “Dark-born” void we know?

Koji Fox: Actually, yes. There’s that that “blank, white perfection” line in the game. That’s accurate. The Dark void that we know is void of aether, but you still have the people and animals that were there and they’re aether-starved and trying to break through into our world and suck that aether back into their own. Whereas in a light void there’s NOTHING. It’s empty. Beyond that I can’t say anything.

So that was why people were surprised at the whole reveal of Sin Eaters, and now we have what look like Haukke Halicarnassus palette swaps as Sin Eaters.

[MrThinker]

Specifically Gamer Escape's Lorecast 9. (Most questions I've seen about lore in general that have "I saw the answer in an interview" seem to have that interview be Lorecasts 7 or 9, for some reason.)



So that was why people were surprised at the whole reveal of Sin Eaters, and now we have what look like Haukke Halicarnassus palette swaps as Sin Eaters.

I actually read it 2nd hand from one of Moose's comments, so thanks for providing a direct source

[Seraphor]

The First isn't a 'Light Void' though is it, it's in the process of becoming one. Much like the Void on the thirteenth probably isn't a true aethervoid, because beings exist.
It's like, space is not a true vacuum, if there's things in it.

Voidsent are aether-starved, while Sineaters are aether-gluttons.
This means that Voidsent sustain themselves through their actions, they cling onto 'life' by seeking out aether.
Sineaters fulfilling their nature would instead keep gorging on aether until they reach a tipping point and that aether consumes everything, and there's nothing but pure light aether left.

[Yuyuka3]

Specifically Gamer Escape's Lorecast 9. (Most questions I've seen about lore in general that have "I saw the answer in an interview" seem to have that interview be Lorecasts 7 or 9, for some reason.)

Gamer Escape: Would a “Light-born” void differ from the “Dark-born” void we know?

Koji Fox: Actually, yes. There’s that that “blank, white perfection” line in the game. That’s accurate. The Dark void that we know is void of aether, but you still have the people and animals that were there and they’re aether-starved and trying to break through into our world and suck that aether back into their own. Whereas in a light void there’s NOTHING. It’s empty. Beyond that I can’t say anything.

So that was why people were surprised at the whole reveal of Sin Eaters, and now we have what look like Haukke Halicarnassus palette swaps as Sin Eaters.

The First isn't a 'Light Void' though is it, it's in the process of becoming one. Much like the Void on the thirteenth probably isn't a true aethervoid, because beings exist.
It's like, space is not a true vacuum, if there's things in it.

Voidsent are aether-starved, while Sineaters are aether-gluttons.
This means that Voidsent sustain themselves through their actions, they cling onto 'life' by seeking out aether.
Sineaters fulfilling their nature would instead keep gorging on aether until they reach a tipping point and that aether consumes everything, and there's nothing but pure light aether left.

Except that line implies that the 13th is, indeed, a dark void. Koji explicitly states that they are very different and that things can exist in the dark void, but not the light void. Therefore, while the Sin Eaters will most likely wipe themselves out when the light void is complete, the voidsent can exist in their dark void.

I do agree with on the rest, though, and I actually think that is why voidsent can exist in their void... if that makes sense.