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    Im really sorry, but why are Dots necessary? RDM has twincast. Dots more or less are Autoattack+ skills, that do add to overall dps but just do filler, consecutive damage over time. Since we can spam 2 spells in one GCD, or 1.1 GCD's it doesnt really seem to make sense that we need constant new auto attack like damage, to be RDM. I just dont see it being necessary in our kits over any other class or job in the whole game atm. The only depth we needed was an option for aoe finishing, and maybe a bit more complexity in aoe rotation. Some more utility, as some suggested "as upgrades to our identity and give more useful edge in raiding beyond prog" but a dot? We're part white mage and part black mage, we dont even follow Arcanist. And sure whm and blm have their few dots, but we dual cast, all the time, every time. But sure if its really that big of a deal, i just figured small aoe burst was the big area we were lacking in, not dot management, without a bane type mechanic, im sure cause it wasnt mentioned. We got a lot of single target. Another dot wont change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    Since we can spam 2 spells in one GCD, or 1.1 GCD's
    It's still 2 spells per 2 GCDs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    It's still 2 spells per 2 GCDs.
    And 4 per 2 GCD. Now we're talking Dot's. I thought I had terrible ping, but if you're only getting 2 spells off every 2 GCD, maybe you should look into a dot oriented job.


    Edit: 3 per 2 it seems. Over time it would get incrementally more. This doesnt really change why we need to become more 3.0 DRG like than we already are - watching for verfire or verstone to proc, now we need to check out heavy thrust/disembowel too?

    You might as well give the "depth and complexity" argument up. Look what happened to our friends, the Scholars this expansion

    Im on the camp that giving a dot, cause everyone else has one or two dots, is just silly. Lets be RDM and not everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    And 4 per 2 GCD. Now we're talking Dot's. I thought I had terrible ping, but if you're only getting 2 spells off every 2 GCD, maybe you should look into a dot oriented job.


    Edit: 3 per 2 it seems.
    No. It's two spells, two GCDs. The first spell happens at the end of the first GCD, the second spell happens at the beginning of the second GCD, then you can't cast another spell until the second GCD is over. Two spells, two GCDs.

    RDM does not have, and never had, the ability to cast two spells in one GCD. Each spell takes up a whole GCD.
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