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    PatronasCharm's Avatar
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    A RDM Equivalent to BLM Triplecast

    So, RDM Get's Dualcast, yes, it's a unique trait that gives it it's special identity, but, I was thinking what could be a fun way to incorporate a "Triplecast."

    *Tweaked Chainspell, to be a bit different then let's say a "Triplecast"; this inspired by a fan's [Archwizard] reply to this post. I'll keep original below, since it would still be neat to cast a finisher without having to do a combo.

    New Ability Rework: Chainspell [Instant/60s] Doubles Spellcasting while reducing Mana Accumulation by 50%.
    • Duration: 10s

    [What does this mean?] Pew, pew, pew spell firing. It doubles the spell casting; therefore, it gives the Red Mage a 10s window of being able to just cast spells. It will lower the Mana accumulation, to balance it out. So if you do a basic rotation: Veraero >> Veraero >> Veraero / Verthunder >> Verthunder >> Verthunder = 15/15 to White / Black: or alternate between the two.
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    Top Is rework

    Bottom is original

    New Ability: Chainspell [Instant / 60s] While Black and White Mana Meter are at equal values of 100/100 the Red Mage can instantly cast: Verflare >> Verholy >> Scorch.
    Additional Effect: Verfire and Verstone Ready
    Additional Effect: Composure
    Doubles White and Black Meter Accumulation
    Duration: 10s

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    New Trait: Composure
    Doubles the accumulation of both White and Black Mana.

    If done correctly, a Red Mage could do this:

    Verfire >> Verthunder [40 Black]
    Verstone >> Veraero [40 White]

    Manafication [80/80] >> BOOM Combo
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    This new ability could potentially be a reason to keep our meter to 100/100.

    The other option maybe if Red Mage keeps meter at 100/100.

    Manifestation [Instant / 2.5s] Consumes 50 Black Mana and 50 White Mana and makes Verflare and Verholy to hit enemies within range.

    Additional Effect: Verflare Deals fire damage to all nearby enemies with a potency of 350 for the first enemy, 10% less for the second, 20% less for the third, 30% less for the fourth, 40% less for the fifth, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.

    Additional Effect: Verholy deals holy damage to all nearby enemies with a potency of 350 for the first enemy, 10% less for the second, 20% less for the third, 30% less for the fourth, 40% less for the fifth, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.

    Thanks for reading ahead of time! And what do you think?

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    Last edited by PatronasCharm; 06-26-2019 at 12:26 AM.

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    LeonTrifang's Avatar
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    Florian Nozomu
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    My reason for keeping my meter at 100 when not fighting bosses, is I can spam spells without having to focus on my gauge. I can focus and fill it up properly, but I don’t like having to all the time lol
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    But RDM already has Dualcast... like, every other spell.
    Triplecast is a cooldown.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    No, triplecast is "unique" to blm, dualcast is plenty for RDM i think.
    Only times i bring up my meter to 100/100 is if i want to fit 2 finishers on one embolden
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    Markov Dracul
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    I think being able to cast Scorch after VerFlare/VerHoly is already a form of Chainspell. If anything when we go from lvl 80 to 90 we'll get a Chainspell trait that allows the casting of VerFlare or VerHoly after casting the other followed by Scorch.
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    Archwizard Drake
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    I think the idea in the OP goes right past giving us Triplecast and tries to make us into full-on Black Mages.

    I mean, overcapping your Mana lets you cast three spells of at least 600 potency each, in a row? And makes it easier to do again? You would never want to melee combo again.

    Though the idea of a Triplecast has reminded me of a neat idea I once heard from Zynest: Just give us our own version of Light Speed, which reduces all cast times by 3 sec. Verthunder and Veraero become our shortcasts, and our usual shortcasts become instants to throw while moving.
    As imbalanced as that may sound at a glance, it would really only add about 30-50 potency and 2-5 mana to each of our usual shortcasts.
    Could even call it Chainspell, since it would let us chain our normal longcasts.

    Only thing is with Reprise now covering our need for an instant ranged attack, it may not have such high value for us in the latter position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    I think the idea in the OP goes right past giving us Triplecast and tries to make us into full-on Black Mages.

    I mean, overcapping your Mana lets you cast three spells of at least 600 potency each, in a row? And makes it easier to do again? You would never want to melee combo again.

    Though the idea of a Triplecast has reminded me of a neat idea I once heard from Zynest: Just give us our own version of Light Speed, which reduces all cast times by 3 sec. Verthunder and Veraero become our shortcasts, and our usual shortcasts become instants to throw while moving.
    As imbalanced as that may sound at a glance, it would really only add about 30-50 potency and 2-5 mana to each of our usual shortcasts.
    Could even call it Chainspell, since it would let us chain our normal longcasts.

    Only thing is with Reprise now covering our need for an instant ranged attack, it may not have such high value for us in the latter position.


    To me, it would be more of a burst mode: bc before I enter a boss in a DNG I generally have 100/100. But let's say I'm doing a Raid tier boss; I generally save up around 80/80 each element, do my rotation, then do a second rotation with Manafestation. So I'd do a double rotation within that's what?

    *With displacement not Engagement Potency calculations btw

    Potency Rotation: 1830 + 1830 = 3660

    My proposed Chainspell + Rotation every 100/100 + 60s: 1900 + 1830 = 3730

    Your proposed idea of a version of Light Speed; that would be super neat! It would be a mode that would make us be hyper casters which would be so much fun! I do hope they do something along those lines.

    Thanks for the replies, and I appretiate the feedback on the thought of Chainspell everyone
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    Dualcast + melee combo + verflare + scorch and you can use 6 instants row. It is kind of "triplecast".
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    Gaethan Tessula
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    As much as I want a variation of Chainspell in this game, I'd rather have a RDM Lightspeed + Presence of Mind than... whatever this is.

    Melee combo into Verflare/holy and Scorch is already RDM's burst.
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    I pretty much still want the version of chainspell I came up with, that was essentially Rapidfire. 6 instant cast spells at a 1.5s GCD, but with a damage penalty of 20-30%. It’s a net boost thanks to being able to spam veraero/thunder. The penalty is there to offset the effective 60% damage boost from the gcd change alone.
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    Last edited by Grimoire-M; 06-20-2019 at 09:56 PM.

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