Housing demolition timer need to be changed! Sitting on your property needs to count.

[HyoMinPark]

So the OP owned a house but didn’t step into it once in 45 days despite logging in every day, and is now mad that he lost the house?

You could have done things like retainers/orchestrions/armoire at your personal house instead of your FC house, OP. That is also an option. Despite my dissatisfactions with the housing system, I’m hard pressed to really feel sympathy for you.

I googled it and they use their own engine crystal tools, which gave them a lot of problems with 13 apparently. I have no idea if that would even effect housing Im basically wondering about these things and cant find any real information about why they cant so Im looking through reasons I can think of. Queue is taking forever so I have time right now.

Not sure if anyone clarified this (I haven’t finished reading through the entire thread), but Crystal Tools was used only for 1.0 (which is another reason why it had so many problems). Crystal Tools apparently worked really well for XIII despite it being a bit dated for it, but it did not translate well into an MMO environment since it was made for single-player console games.

FFXIV now uses the Luminous Engine for its coding. That said, there are remnants of 1.0 coding still around (according to the developers) that may make Housing harder to code if there’s a lot of spaghetti floating around in its coding, but they no longer use Crystal Tools as the main engine.

[Prophecy]

So the OP owned a house but didn’t step into it once in 45 days despite logging in every day, and is now mad that he lost the house?

You could have done things like retainers/orchestrions/armoire at your personal house instead of your FC house, OP. That is also an option. Despite my dissatisfactions with the housing system, I’m hard pressed to really feel sympathy for you.



Not sure if anyone clarified this (I haven’t finished reading through the entire thread), but Crystal Tools was used only for 1.0 (which is another reason why it had so many problems). Crystal Tools apparently worked really well for XIII despite it being a bit dated for it, but it did not translate well into an MMO environment since it was made for single-player console games.

FFXIV now uses the Luminous Engine for its coding. That said, there are remnants of 1.0 coding still around (according to the developers) that may make Housing harder to code if there’s a lot of spaghetti floating around in its coding, but they no longer use Crystal Tools as the main engine.

So the OP owned a house but didn’t step into it once in 45 days despite logging in every day, and is now mad that he lost the house? You say mad, I did not. i'm disappointed that outside does not count. Thus the post. Also the solutions provided.

[HyoMinPark]

So the OP owned a house but didn’t step into it once in 45 days despite logging in every day, and is now mad that he lost the house? You say mad, I did not. i'm disappointed that outside does not count. Thus the post. Also the solutions provided.

I’m going off of the tone of your posts. They sound quite angry, but you could have—at any point during these 45 days—stepped into your house to take care of things. Instead, you opted to check retainers and do stuff at your FC house and just lounge about in your yard. I can’t really feel sorry for that.

[Prophecy]

I’m going off of the tone of your posts. They sound quite angry, but you could have—at any point during these 45 days—stepped into your house to take care of things. Instead, you opted to check retainers and do stuff at your FC house and just lounge about in your yard. I can’t really feel sorry for that.

No need to feel sorry for me nor do I expect it.

What was stated is the need to have the outside count if we need to have a timer at all.

The other option if we need to have timer is, an in game pop up notice.

The last option is to change or add instances we zone in so we all can have a plot with no timers need.

[HyoMinPark]

No need to feel sorry for me nor do I expect it.

What was stated is the need to have the outside count if we need to have a timer at all.

The other option if we need to have timer is, an in game pop up notice.

The last option is to change or add instances we zone in so we all can have a plot with no timers need.

It’s already been stated repeatedly why they probably do not have the outside programmed to count—what with the amount of people that can enter any given yard for any given house, how is the server supposed to identify that it’s the plot’s owner? This game is littered with the remnants of code that are over a decade old, and it wouldn’t surprise me if this code is the limitation here.

While yes, they can give you an in-game pop-up, you already receive multiple emails. I don’t know about you, but my email is all pushed to my phone and I check it daily. If you’re concerned about it going to spam, you can add the addresses to your address book, which should prevent that. There is also a Timers menu that shows up for you AND any tenants you may have discussing estate demolition.

I’m all for instanced housing. I’d rather have it as opposed to ward housing anyways. But the developers seem keen on it not being a thing in the foreseeable future.

[Prophecy]

It’s already been stated repeatedly why they probably do not have the outside programmed to count—what with the amount of people that can enter any given yard for any given house, how is the server supposed to identify that it’s the plot’s owner? This game is littered with the remnants of code that are over a decade old, and it wouldn’t surprise me if this code is the limitation here.

Can the Dev team tell us why they can not ID us on the property? There are other triggers they can use outside (stables, gardening, Sitting, etc...)



While yes, they can give you an in-game pop-up, you already receive multiple emails. I don’t know about you, but my email is all pushed to my phone and I check it daily. If you’re concerned about it going to spam, you can add the addresses to your address book, which should prevent that. There is also a Timers menu that shows up for you AND any tenants you may have discussing estate demolition.

Yes they can give us pop-up! Glad we can agree on that. Thanks!

I’m all for instanced housing. I’d rather have it as opposed to ward housing anyways. But the developers seem keen on it not being a thing in the foreseeable future.

100% agree for Instanced housing! awesome !-_-! Looking forward to it!

[Edax]

100% agree for Instanced housing! awesome !-_-! Looking forward to it!

It's not happening, so don't bother looking forward to it.

[HyoMinPark]

100% agree for Instanced housing! awesome !-_-! Looking forward to it!

Reading the way you replied to my post is a bit difficult. Next time just divide them into [ quote ] [ /quote ] bubbles next time instead of this strange bolding and inserting comments into the middle of them. They make it look as if I've made the comments when I haven't.

Just format them with my statements in quotes and yours outside of it.

like this.

And this.


Some people don't have gardens or chocobo stables in their yards. How would this work for people that don't desire these items in their yard? Sitting isn't anything interactive with the environment like the former two, so it would be much like just stepping into your yard.

My comments are directed towards what the game already offers. You were sent multiple emails about the demolition of your plot and you neglected them. Just as you neglected going into it for a month and a half. I'm honestly having a hard time understanding this, because I go into my house every time I'm logged in. I idle in there. I queue for stuff in there. I craft in there. I use it a lot.
As I should, because I have the dream plot in the Lavender Beds and I'm lucky as heck to have gotten it in the first place.

The better solution to not losing your estate is to just go into your house once every 45 days rather than adding in all these features to promote not actively using the house. Not that hard to do to just click on the door and check your retainers there instead of your FC house every other week.