Thread: DRK's 5.0 rework just feels...incomplete.

Originally Posted by Anger

IMO DRK was always a novelty or "fun" tank. I think WAR and PLD were the main ones since 2.1

DRK was the superior MT in Heavensward throughout Gordias. It remained quite strong throughout the expansion.

It also was not introduced until Heavensward, and thus couldn't exactly compete with WAR and PLD through 2.x...

Originally Posted by Freyyy

The only reason for that was because PLD was shit back then (worst DPS, worst opening aggro, worst magic damage mitigation and just average physical mitigation, worst utility) and DRK had job mechanics that forced him into taking damage to increase its DPS. DRK already had problems in HW, but the job was meta and a lot of fun so we thought that it didn't need to be fixed.

So... absolutely nothing to do with the fact it had the most significant and on-demand magic resistance in magic-heavy fights like A4S? Nothing to do with it not only needing to be MT but also having the highest MT damage of the three tanks? Hmm. I'll admit, those weren't by leaps and bounds, but I've a hard time believing they were non-factors, else double-Warrior would have been more than worth its LB generation penalty.

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

DRK was the superior MT in Heavensward throughout Gordias. It remained quite strong throughout the expansion.

The only reason for that was because PLD was shit back then (worst DPS, worst opening aggro, worst magic damage mitigation and just average physical mitigation, worst utility) and DRK had job mechanics that forced him into taking damage to increase its DPS. DRK already had problems in HW, but the job was meta and a lot of fun so we thought that it didn't need to be fixed.

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

So... absolutely nothing to do with the fact it had the most significant and on-demand magic resistance in magic-heavy fights like A4S? Nothing to do with it not only needing to be MT but also having the highest MT damage of the three tanks? Hmm. I'll admit, those weren't by leaps and bounds, but I've a hard time believing they were non-factors, else double-Warrior would have been more than worth its LB generation penalty.

The on-demand magic resistance was so strong back then because PLD wasn't able to block magic. Magic block Sheltron in A4S would've been as good as DM. Highest MT damage of the three tanks was only achieved in some fights, the mostly physical ones for more low blows and more consistent Reprisals, A3S for example. In most of the other fights WAR had equal or higher DPS depending on how downtimes would line up with their burst windows. I didn't say that these were non-factors, but DRK wasn't the outright superior MT just because it was a stronger tank. It mostly was because of how shitty PLD was and how DRK needed the MT spot compared to WAR. Double-WAR was definitely a thing for some statics back then despite the LB penalty. It just wasn't optimal because DRK MT could bring a bit more DPS in some fights and old Reprisal + old Delirium (in case of no MNK) that could be stacked with old Path for more raid utility.