About the whole '' shorts and skirts '' thing...

[Nedkel]

I have no idea what OP is ranting about but he is 100% right.

[Iscah]

My issue with "men get pants and women get shorts/skirts" is not about wanting my female character to wear pants. It's about wanting to not be given "the sexy version" of every outfit when the (perfectly unisex) male version is what I want my female character to wear.

I like skirts. They're feminine. They're pretty. They look glorious when casting spells.

What I don't like is that the vast majority of female skirts come with nothing underneath. You can't be "feminine" without giving everyone a chance to see your virtual underwear.

It's particularly frustrating when the male version also comes with a skirt (that male characters will probably grumble about) but gets pants underneath. I want those pants with the skirt attached. I want to use the pretty skirt that came with my summoner relic gear, and the boarskin tank skirt, and the one from the WHM AF2 that might be one of the few salvageable pieces of that outfit.

But no, have a miniskirt (or maybe some frilly undies). That's how we gender-differentiate our gear.

THAT is what makes me complain on the topic - it's not that I want less skirts, I just want more that I'm happy to wear.

(And okay, occasionally pants - because those bard AF3 pants are gorgeous and I want them instead of the short-shorts that can't even be seen under the coat.)

[radhaz]

I'll just leave this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G59JnM4JKNQ

[gumas]

iam more annoyed that all the clothes in this game just feel "samey" to me. thats why iam so happy with my makai short (mnk)

more gawn pls? short jacket? aside from leonhart jacket. a coat?

[Mistyregions]

I think I know what is trying to be said. OP seems to be asking why the society deems pants as the default masculine option.

Pants are usually the masculine option, and not female types, like skinny Jean's, but Male types Like Levi's etc. Like in the 90s if a girl wore work pants she was a tomboy, or why women wore pant suits (Google that hot 90s trend ladies). It was done to appear masculine.

Now are we asking why society seems pants masculine and skirts feminine?

[YatoShishi]

I have a dream, that one day, we dont get triggered by every and anything.

[Brightamethyst]

My issue with "men get pants and women get shorts/skirts" is not about wanting my female character to wear pants. It's about wanting to not be given "the sexy version" of every outfit when the (perfectly unisex) male version is what I want my female character to wear.

This.

I don't mind skirts and other feminine outfits in general. A lot of them look really good. I just wish it wasn't all short skirts and skimpy outfits all the time. I can't even count the number of times I've examined a male character with a really cool glamour, tried it on myself, and walked away disappointed that I only get a "sexy version."

[Arcana]

the answer is obvious. People that plays this kind of games likes them to watch shorts and skirts on their PJ. Yoshi hear -> Yoshi implement (except balancing de jobs).

[Eldevern]

From my side... aesthetic matter. And I've already heard woman having complexe if a crossdressing man appears nicer legs than she has.

That's not always "education", contrary to what the "no gender" militant would like to make us believe. Personal tastes matters too.

[Crushnight]

For me its the devs themselves that perpetuate the stereotype in this game, of pants for males, skirts for females and i believe its down to playing it 'safe' due to how many countries they sell to. It is boring but it is 'safe'.

It also doesn't help the devs have a preferred gender they like to design around when they come up with concepts, if for tanks it is usually males before females, healers its usually females before males, dps is dependent on the job which order they go in, and for general they usually go females before males due to there being more female characters than male characters. Its stereotypes that are affecting other stereotypes its ingrained in society and it will be nigh impossible to change it certainly not in this game's lifespan.

What doesn't help is that genderlocked gear was imbalanced for awhile towards females, the bunny suits and the thavnarian bustier were female exclusive (bustier still is) yet no male equivalent exclusive was given for any of them (the thavnarian bolreo was able to be worn by everyone), this was where i noticed the complaints about glamour getting louder they were always there but this point is when i really started to notice it. Now fortunately they seem to make a male exclusive with a female exclusive most of the time but sometimes the genderlocked gear is just weird to do (flower crown etc).

Edit : Wow i ranted XD