Stop telling healers to go play dps

[gumas]

it would be funny if people keep debating stuff like this and yoshi went snapped and do something like how he do stuff with the tank stance.

new patch, all healer jobclass is now more indepth. whm now need to "manually" grow their lily so they can use their lily skill (just like dancer doing their dance thingy), ast now playing their cards fulltime (over 50 combinations and complex stacking mechanic). sch now have full control over their pet, they have 2 now (went full pokemon)

then yoshi end up with "or you can ignore all that and help dps, up to you"

just a joke, pls dont triggered.

[Wilford111]

I just find it funny that your reasoning for liking it is 100% selfish, but then basically imply that people are being selfish and whiny for being upset that SCH was changed...

Sorry, that was not my intention at all. But yeah if I like something it's 100% my opinion on why I like it; other people's opinions have little influence on whether I like something or not. My heart does go out to all you SCH mains, your job is getting gutted and that sucks. I'm just saying that I'm more likely to try it now. I didn't mean to cause any offense.

[Anselmet]

Honestly, full respect to all the healer mains that aren't jumping ship to go play a dps. I have never taken a dps to cap first. Since I began in arr I always did sch first. Won't be the case this time for I am not strong enough for this. Good luck to you all. Alphinaud/Urianger are calling bc I won't do dps ques either lol.

[CorbinDallas]

Crazy thought, but some people like the challenge of pushing as much DPS while keeping the party alive with minimal GCD healing.

Generally speaking, if you take a mechanic to the face that you shouldn't, and one of my off globals isn't up, I'm going to let you sit there until you absolutely need to be healed. The fights in this game are far too scripted with way too much downtime, which is why we get away with so much DPSing. Take O12S for example, right after Hello World, the only person needing spot healing for a good minute or so is the MT, everyone else just passive heals over time thanks to Eos ready for the next group wide damage.

The fact people in casual content don't know how to heal that efficiently boggles my mind sometimes. Us DPSing isn't bad, you over healing and spending unnecessary GCDs is.

[Knoahl]

with how dots are calculated (all tick at same time every 2.5ish seconds) and how damage is distributed, we will never have Pressure filled situations when it comes to healing, it will always be predictable unless it just one shots us. at the end of the day they can throw all the damage into mechanics, but so long as we do them correctly we won't ever be able ot not predict them. FF's raids will always be a dance, will always be predictable. Unless these new "damage calculations" change how the core game works server side, I don't see any of this rebalancing actually meaning anything.

This whole excuse to change healers seems silly and always will do, I wonder how they will address any of this at E3's live letter, infact I'm surprised with all the upset at late there has been no official presence on the forum to say concerns have been noted.

[ChocoFeru]

You'll be able to do DPS as healer in Shadowbringers. The difference is that it will be way easier this time.

Some healers, even top ones, are the main cause of wipes in raid content because they don't know how to DPS and heal at the same time, so I guess SE had to change healers a bit so they can keep doing DPS but be able to heal at the same time.

I'm not a healer and I'm really happy of the changes. I was really TIRED of healers not healing, and maybe you were having fun, but I wasn't.

[althenawhm]

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And some DPS cant do their rotation and doge AoEs at the same time, but I dont support gutting them just because there are a few idiots out there.

[ChocoFeru]

And some DPS cant do their rotation and doge AoEs at the same time, but I dont support gutting them just because there are a few idiots out there.

Atleast it can be solved healing them to prevent a wipe. Well, only if the healer is healing, wich is something rare nowadays.

PS: they simplyfied DPS as well, by the way. They got some stackable OGCDs to simplify rotations, tanks as well, and I don't see any thread discussing about it.

[Knoahl]

Atleast it can be solved healing them to prevent a wipe. Well, only if the healer is healing, wich is something rare nowadays.

PS: they simplyfied DPS as well, by the way. They got some stackable OGCDs to simplify rotations, tanks as well, and I don't see any thread discussing about it.

They did not simplify dps, they actually gave tanks more ways to dps, and DPS like BLM got more ways to keep DPSing... more buttons to DPS, Same with RDM.

What are you even saying lol. If anything having the DoT's as potent as they were and the accuracy checkes encouraged healers to not dps and put DoTs up then focus on healing as spells would miss and be a waste of mana. But these days we are encouraged to put as many GCD's as possible into the boss with large potency single target spells, thus contradicting what you are saying tbh.

[MintnHoney]

PS: ... DPS...

There are complaints about some of the DPS role jobs as well, with MCH being the biggest DPS job up for discussion and complaints due to how their upcoming changes would be severely hampered by potential latency (among other complaints).
The difference being that they didn't have parts of their identities burned and skills and abilities stolen away for the sake of "balancing" the role (and, to be honest, probably moreso for the sake of highlighting the Dancer).

I also don't like this idea that, if a different role or job doesn't have a problem, others can't either, and/or they shouldn't be brought up. If you're "tired of seeing" something, use that selective sight, that hasn't seen any of the discussion regarding the other Jobs, and simply "not see" these threads that you don't want to see. In the meantime, we have a bone to pick, and we're gonna pick it.