Scholar changes

[Fyce]

So something I just noticed, besides all of these threads that keep appearing, take the hint SE, anyways. Something I noticed is how SCH has the lowest single target spell until they reach level 54. Ruin is worth 100, to Malefic's 150, and Stone 2's 200. Our DoT doesnt even make up the full difference once theirs are upgraded. Truthfully, this is me just being sore about losing my DoTs, but there is something there I know it.

Ruin II has been buffed to 200 potency in the media tour build. It's learned at level 38.
The only reason to use Ruin instead of Ruin II when you get it would be because Ruin II cost 200 more MP. But that shouldn't be an issue.

[Eloah]

Ruin II has been buffed to 200 potency in the media tour build. It's learned at level 38.
The only reason to use Ruin instead of Ruin II when you get it would be because Ruin II cost 200 more MP. But that shouldn't be an issue.

Ruin II is buffed to 200 potency at level 72, which is also when you get Broil III. Bit it was mostly about less DPSing power in low level dungeons prior to getting Broil

[Fyce]

Ruin II is buffed to 200 potency at level 72, which is also when you get Broil III. Bit it was mostly about less DPSing power in low level dungeons prior to getting Broil

Damn, you're right. I skipped Broil Mastery III as simply I assumed it just made Broil II into Broil III.
So yeah, SCH will definitly be weak DPS wise for most of its early leveling. I hope it's an oversight.
Good catch.

Ruin II is now buffed by 40 potency every time Ruin/Broil gets an upgrade. So it will be 80/120/160/200 potency.
Ruin/Broil will be superior to Ruin II outside of the need for weaving oGCDs or movement.

I quickly (might have missed something) checked gamerescape, MTQcapture, Mr.Happy, Larryzaur, Reddit media tour, and none of them went into full details about traits. I just noticed reddit mentionned the Lv.72 trait and that's about it. I had to check a french media for the full info.

Regarding the numbers you gave me, the french outlet I checked had different ones, starting with 100 at Lv.38, 140 at Lv.54 with Broil Mastery I, 170 at Lv.64 with Broil Mastery II, and finally 200 at Lv.72 with Broil Mastery III. Though it was text and not screenshots.
Would you mind sharing your source? It might be differences between the NA and EU build, which would indicate that this stuff is still being under some changes.

Edit: No, it's not differences between builds. Here's Reddit's screenshot of their video on the subject, and Ruin II does seem to start at 100 pot. It's also in their text script for their video:

Ruin II gets buffed from 100 to 200 potency through traits, making it even better for weaving.

Still didn't find any detail regarding the inbetween levels though.

Final Edit:

The linked video from MTQ goes over every trait and the Broil Mastery Traits set the potency for Ruin II to 140/170/200 potency.
So yeah i had the wrong numbers in my head and i also didn't find the base potency for Ruin II.
I'm sorry.

Yeah, it seems I skipped to quickly. It was the third one I checked and started to get impatient.
Whatever the case, the final verdict was that Eloah was right saying that SCH would be pretty weak in terms of DPS for its early leveling.

[Legion88]

I quickly (might have missed something) checked gamerescape, MTQcapture, Mr.Happy, Larryzaur, Reddit media tour, and none of them went into full details about traits. I just noticed reddit mentionned the Lv.72 trait and that's about it. I had to check a french media for the full info.

Regarding the numbers you gave me, the french outlet I checked had different ones, starting with 100 at Lv.38, 140 at Lv.54 with Broil Mastery I, 170 at Lv.64 with Broil Mastery II, and finally 200 at Lv.72 with Broil Mastery III. Though it was text and not screenshots.
Would you mind sharing your source? It might be differences between the NA and EU build, which would indicate that this stuff is still being under some changes.

Edit: No, it's not differences between builds. Here's Reddit's screenshot of their video on the subject, and Ruin II does seem to start at 100 pot. It's also in their text script for their video: Still didn't find any detail regarding the inbetween levels though.

The linked video from MTQ goes over every trait and the Broil Mastery Traits set the potency for Ruin II to 140/170/200 potency.
So yeah i had the wrong numbers in my head and i also didn't find the base potency for Ruin II.
I'm sorry.

[Legion88]

Ruin II has been buffed to 200 potency in the media tour build. It's learned at level 38.
The only reason to use Ruin instead of Ruin II when you get it would be because Ruin II cost 200 more MP. But that shouldn't be an issue.

Ruin II is now buffed by 40 potency every time Ruin/Broil gets an upgrade. So it will be 80/120/160/200 potency.
Ruin/Broil will be superior to Ruin II outside of the need for weaving oGCDs or movement.

[Limonia]

I've just watched a video of the new SCH skills again and noticed that the faerie will cast Embrace whenever someone has lost any HP. Or is that wrong?
It was Mr. Happy's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pj8QJa-pYA (I just randomly clicked on one of the 5.0 SCH videos)
Whenever Thancred didn't have full HP, he would receive an Embrace heal (or whoever had the least HP at that time, like Alisaie).
I haven't read this anywhere yet, but I think it's kind of weird. Embrace is weaker than before, but having it heal someone as soon as they are at 99% HP? It's going to overheal A LOT.