Excited for changes

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Liking healing doesn't mean you need to constantly and only heal, and if you don't it means you actually hate healing. I'm so tired of this faulty, ignorant argument.

Downtime is a thing, optimizing is a thing. There's simply not enough damage going out to warrant needing to heal all the time. And there never will be because SE is afraid to raise damage too high.
At the same time they're giving us these kits that try to bring us towards more healing. Can people really not see how this is a disaster in the making? At least we had the option before to do more stuff in all the downtime, now those options are being stripped away from us.

[Tsubaki75]

As others have said the healing kit is far too powerful for the amount of damage going out in instances, and as long as fights are scripted even in high end content you will never have to heal constantly and need something to do with downtime.

Honestly I would just get rid of ogcd heals all together and tweak the gcd heals to even it out, you can turn all of those ogcd's into damage and party support abilities to flesh out the toolkit. This would allow you to heal most of the time since you don't have healing bombs anymore while weaving in damage and buffs in between.

[Knoahl]

To those healers that are upset that they will not be able to DPS I recommend that you play a strictly DPS class as clearly that is what you enjoy doing.

We can still dps though lmao

People don't find healing boring, they find Shadowbringers vision for healing regressive and ill thought out for the long term as no proactive play outside of shields/precasting heals.

It's the expansion which is the issue, even WoW healers are encouraged to dps these days (Mythic+ Keys, Catweaving, Fistweaving, Holy Avenger, Atonement.) so many fun ways to dps/debuff to augments your healing kit, such as dpsing restores mp, or nerfs the mobs damage on next hit.

Arguements will sadly continue, They should be catering to both sides of the community, the hardcore and the casual. This can be achieved via content balancing (instance difficulty) and not gutting a Job

[Sanctify]

I've lost all drive and motivation to play this game after 5.0. Honestly, I'm only lurking on the boards for a sign these changes will be reverted. I've already unsubbed, have 2 weeks left on the current script, and just can't be bothered to log in and sink more time into a job that's going to be ruined.

To those tolerating these changes, more power to ya and have fun.

Can I have your stuff?

[guardin]

I for one am extremely excited about the new changes coming to the game. I am extremely happy that the Developers are trying to eliminate all of the hatred between tanks and healers that are currently in the game. We have all seen tanks and healers fight it is ugly and there is no place for it. I am hoping with the recent changes to all classes that this now balances dungeons in a fun manner.

To those healers that are upset that they will not be able to DPS I recommend that you play a strictly DPS class as clearly that is what you enjoy doing. I personally really enjoy healing. I find it exhilarating when the tank is down to 10% and I can quickly bring him back to full. That is why I heal. I find it extremely excited I do not understand all of the people that find it boring to heal. And once again to the people who find Healing boring I recommend you play a different class.

I'm not only excited about the healing changes but I'm excited for the tanking changes and the DPS changes. I play all classes equally. So I am excited to see as a tank I can now DPS in stance without losing DPS. And for the DPS I'm excited about the changes and the increased DPS output specifically regarding AOE.

A special thank you to the Developers for spending so much time making sure the dungeons are balanced and trying to keep players from arguing with each other. I really appreciate that.

healers changes are the best. they are just the salty group of niche players that feels entitled because healers are rare. my most toxic runs always happen because of an elitist healer thinking we cannot go on without them and replacing them takes too long. these changes are good because now more people actually want to heal and it should help heal this superiority complex healers currently have.

[WaxSw]

healers changes are the best. they are just the salty group of niche players that feels entitled because healers are rare. my most toxic runs always happen because of an elitist healer thinking we cannot go on without them and replacing them takes too long. these changes are good because now more people actually want to heal and it should help heal this superiority complex healers currently have.

While destroying any sense of fun, job identity and engaging complexity they have. Yeah those changes are great to let people try the job, not so good if you want them to stick to the job.

[Urthdigger]

healers changes are the best. they are just the salty group of niche players that feels entitled because healers are rare. my most toxic runs always happen because of an elitist healer thinking we cannot go on without them and replacing them takes too long. these changes are good because now more people actually want to heal and it should help heal this superiority complex healers currently have.

If you think designing a class so you're either bored and/or useless for most of the fight will get people to pick up healer over tank or DPS, I have a bridge to sell you.

[Alfric]

I have to say.. I don’t mind the changes to the healers as a whole.. but I think it’s irrational to think wveryone should be excited about them or just ‘switch classes’. I find myself wanting to wait to see how I feel until after the expac comes out but I do wholeheartedly understand why people are a bit upset. Especially Scholar mains. This has taken so much depth from your kit. You used to be able to take down packs of enemies in solo play but I wonder how it will work out now.. In an attempt to avoid ignorance, I do try to see both sides and I am sorry for anyone who feels like they won’t enjoy healing after SHB drops.

PS: I play mostly Astro so I can’t say I’m too affecred by the two-three button rotation but again I am sorry about the loss of those extra DPS spells ^^’

[Ryoutoshi]

I for one am extremely excited about the new changes coming to the game. I am extremely happy that the Developers are trying to eliminate all of the hatred between tanks and healers that are currently in the game. We have all seen tanks and healers fight it is ugly and there is no place for it. I am hoping with the recent changes to all classes that this now balances dungeons in a fun manner.

To those healers that are upset that they will not be able to DPS I recommend that you play a strictly DPS class as clearly that is what you enjoy doing. I personally really enjoy healing. I find it exhilarating when the tank is down to 10% and I can quickly bring him back to full. That is why I heal. I find it extremely excited I do not understand all of the people that find it boring to heal. And once again to the people who find Healing boring I recommend you play a different class.

I'm not only excited about the healing changes but I'm excited for the tanking changes and the DPS changes. I play all classes equally. So I am excited to see as a tank I can now DPS in stance without losing DPS. And for the DPS I'm excited about the changes and the increased DPS output specifically regarding AOE.

A special thank you to the Developers for spending so much time making sure the dungeons are balanced and trying to keep players from arguing with each other. I really appreciate that.

I am in 100% agreement with your post and sentiments. I also plan to pick up taking with the new SCH since GNB looks fun and I didn't really like the other tanks.

[althenawhm]

Why would anyone be excited for losing DPS options? If you dont DPS you already dont use them, so what difference does it make to you if they are there or not?