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  1. #21
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    CazzT's Avatar
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    Kyssa Shay
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    Siren
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    Reaper Lv 93
    Sounds like a legit reason to kick. His friend should have told him to stop. Sounds like you were better off after his friend ragequit.
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  2. #22
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    Ceridwenae's Avatar
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    Kheeziah Toastie
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JackHatchet View Post
    I won't lie, that certainly falls under the thin-skin thing. To judge the whole game based an encounter with a single individual using emotes. I'm sure even GW2 has folks like that. Every MMO does. Did you or your husband message the emoter in question to ask them to stop, or at least let them know that it was offensive to you?

    To each their own I guess.
    Is an emote-spamming lala with high-pitched laughter following someone everywhere they go some kind of friendly behaviour I've previously been unaware of? My thoughts are if that were so, when the person being spammed moves away from the spammer not once, but twice, they, the spammer, should be at least clued in on the fact their advances are annoying and unwelcome. And my goodness, why on earth would I want to encourage any further communication with such a person by telling them to leave me alone after moving away from them? (not least because I don't think I had chat figured out at that point.) I can only imagine then they really do think they have an active audience and have been given licence to behave even more childishly.

    So, "thin-skinned thing", is it? Yes, I'd certainly own to that, but given I have social anxiety which I'm working on that's hardly surprising. Other players may not be the sort of people who care about that sort of thing however, and you know what? That's okay. It's not on everyone to know about who has what going on when you just come across them in a game. Though, I would think this very thing alone would give a wise person pause when seeking to interact, but like you said, to each their own.

    Above that, however, I own a greater displeasure to general rude, disruptive, bullying and pointless behaviour, which the emote spam stupidity falls under. People who are actively seeking to upset or hurt others for their own amusement are the problem here and let's face it, it's just simple good manners to be decent to people.

    Further, you're right it's irrelevant what game this behaviour happens in (I wasn't having a "go" at this particular game - it's just it's the only place this kind of behaviour has happened to me - the fact I've been playing it consistently over the last 16 months or so is because I changed my mind, and gave it another go. This is also irrelevant, given I said in my post it wasn't the sole reason I unsubbed and I wasn't truly finished with GW2. My apologies if that was unclear). Does that make it okay? No! Of course it doesn't. Some people have a propensity towards infantile attitudes which they have a compulsion to display to others, and they often think they can get away with it. I say no to that. Honestly, I feel sorry for people who act like this; I have to wonder just how bad their lives are that they think it's okay to behave like this to other people. There is never an excuse to abuse or harass anyone, and I don't think it sensible to let such behaviour go unchallenged.
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    Last edited by Ceridwenae; 06-05-2019 at 07:06 AM. Reason: because I can't count

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    Sshh, you're not allowed to mention to this great community how thin skinned people really are. They're gonna eat you alive.
    Hey HEEEY, HEEEEEEEEY. I dunno don't mind me. I had a joke here but I forgot it. So here... have a instead.
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  4. #24
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    XgungraveX's Avatar
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    Gungrave Hellsing
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    so couple of thing i posted that at lunch didn't have time to go into details.
    1.this is not thin skin post i tanked in many mmos its just comes with being a tank so its doesn't bother me as much, im at the point now if u pull as a dps because you want to go through the dungeon faster your tanking it and im not pick up the adds. i always check with the healer 1st to see how much they wanna handle, big pulls and big heals im down, wanna just chill with small pulls im cool with it,

    2. it wasn't the spamming emote made me annoyed it was him not dpsing so he could type w/e holding up the dungeon is what made vote kick him the 1st place i have little time after work to play before i have to be up at the crack of dawn. i rarely talk in a pug group outside of hello and see u next time, i didnt respond and he kept going like he was try to get a rise out of me or something.
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  5. #25
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    You are the tank; you decide the pace and what gets pulled because that's your role. If they want to decide that, they should level a tank and start tanking.

    There's not a whole lot a tank can do "wrong" with their rotation. Used your enmity combo or enmity AoE? That's what tanks are supposed to do. Used your DPS combo and AoE action? It's difficult to see how that is problematic either if you're holding aggro.

    If enemies weren't dying fast enough due to your tank rotation, maybe they should look inwards, because they are called "DPS" for a reason and it's by definition their job to DPS them down, not yours.

    It's rare, but this sort of thing happens sometimes.
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  6. #26
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Loud Jungle
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Any dps/healer that pulls mobs before tank deserves to be devoured by the mob lol. I absolutely will not pick up anything that's not pulled by me as the tank. As for small/big pulls it depends on the tank, some tanks like to test big pull first to see how the healer heals or small pull to see how they handle that; some tanks ask the healer first which is fine, there's no right/way to decide on pulls. The rule I use is that if it's a non-leveling dungeon I'll do big pulls, if it's a leveling dungeon I'll do small pulls, it's a good rule in my opinion.
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  7. #27
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    Aylis's Avatar
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceridwenae View Post
    A few years ago, when I was first trying out the game, I zoned into Ul'Dah and went AFK a few moments whilst doing so. When I came back a lala was emote spamming that godsawful laugh at me. I moved away into the street to figure out what to do next in the game or where to go (I was new, didn't know what I was doing and so on), and the lala followed me, still emote laugh spamming me, and continued to do so, even when I moved further on up the street for a second time. I was flustered, didn't know what to do, but my husband advised reporting them, and for me to zone to X aetheryte, so that's what I did. A little less than an hour later, I had a GM contact me in game to check up and see if I was okay. They were very kind and understanding, and though I don't recall exactly what was said, I do remember being told that sort of behaviour was not condoned. I imagine, though I don't think they told me, the GM then went to find the offending popoto, and hopefully put it out of its misery for a short spell. Though I actually just unsubbed not long afterwards as it didn't give me the best impression of the game, amongst other things and despite the kindly intervention of the GM - though I admit that unsub was mostly because I hadn't finished up with GW2 at the time and FFXIV and I were not at a place where we could yet meet in the middle.

    So... no, just because an emote is in-game, doesn't mean it's okay to use it to abuse someone else, or that a report for emote harassment will be ignored.
    It's true. A few years ago I remember a very ummm...colorful person emote spamming my friends and I when we were just sitting and talking to ourselves in party chat in Limsa. We all reported them and later on in the night a GM contacted all of us to further investigate. I can't say for sure what happened but I know from doing a lot of things in Limsa (GC and all) that said person was an active harasser in Limsa. After that night for the life of me I can't remember ever seeing them again there.
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  8. #28
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    AxlStream's Avatar
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    Axl Stream
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aylis View Post
    It's true. A few years ago I remember a very ummm...colorful person emote spamming my friends and I when we were just sitting and talking to ourselves in party chat in Limsa. We all reported them and later on in the night a GM contacted all of us to further investigate. I can't say for sure what happened but I know from doing a lot of things in Limsa (GC and all) that said person was an active harasser in Limsa. After that night for the life of me I can't remember ever seeing them again there.
    Wow how awful... Emote spam...
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  9. #29
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    BiffWellington's Avatar
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    Peony Jones
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    Marilith
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    Dancer Lv 86
    Don't underestimate what can be done with emote spamming.

    One time, late at night, when I had leveled my first job to somewhere in the low 50s, I had just completed a job quest and I was standing in Gridania, organizing my inventory and gear. I couldn't see much going on around me, as having those tabs open took up a lot of space on my screen (especially with the smaller monitor I had at the time). After a moment, I hear some grunting. Sounds like a couple of male voices.

    I figure, "Oh, it's just a couple of guys dueling," which I now realize doesn't really happen here, but it's a common thing in most MMOs, so I ignore it and continuing poking around in my inventory.

    I then notice it's been going on for a pretty long time. Also, I'm not hearing any weapon or spell noises. I close my tabs to see what's going on, because that constant grunting is starting to annoy me a little.

    I see about eight naked males crowding around my character, starting and aborting some emote over and over again, which sort of made it look like they were dryhumping her.

    They all continued to follow me around town until I teleported to another city. I didn't think to report them at the time (I was just annoyed and wanted it to stop), but I really should've.
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    She's got a chicken to ri-ide, she's got a chicken to ri-i-ide...
    She's got a chicken to ride, this game's from Square!

  10. #30
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    SoulEchelon's Avatar
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    Jeduh Tiikerigaia
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    Coeurl
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    One person's "Eh it's just good fun" is another person's "This is making me uncomfortable and I want it to stop."

    The people acting like emote spam or general ridicule is perfectly fine and dandy - hey, you do you. Personally I ignore it or go about my business then tp away. But if someone is doing something to the point it's actually hurting someone else, then that person has a right to report it - "thin skinned" or otherwise. The GMs will handle whether it's an actionable offense or not. It's not up to you or even the person reporting to make that decision.

    Edit: This actually reminds me of a time a few years back when the Tower raids were new. I was a new tank and, while I don't entirely remember what sparked this sudden attack, a bunch of other people started ridiculing me. My guess is I missed a mechanic or something. But they were constantly hounding me throughout the whole raid, stating stuff like "I bet she dies first" and so on. It wasn't fun and I couldn't just tp away. It was the first time I reported people, and the GM told me specifically that actions were being made on the persons in question.

    Fact is - it's all in good fun until you start blatantly hurting someone, and that threshold differs between people. I suggest instead of adding to the ridicule, you put your feet in their shoes. Or just, y'know, not be a dick. I mean, that works too.
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    Last edited by SoulEchelon; 06-05-2019 at 11:35 AM.

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