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    XgungraveX's Avatar
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    Gungrave Hellsing
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90

    Was I in the wrong?

    I haven't tank in a min, I pull a mob that could be avoided and then it started. They consent laugh at you emotes and the snide remarks about my rotation. At this point I have no said a word why this is happening. So I got fed up before the second boss and vote to kick for harassment. Apperly the other dps agreed and he was kicked from group. He friend call us both idiots and said reported for false boot then left. We re qued and beat dungeon. My point stands he was rude and I didn't say one word.
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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    No, you commenced a Vote Kick because they were harassing you and they were kicked, you did nothing wrong.
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    Vanitas's Avatar
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Hey if he was rude he was rude. Slap that under the harassment and difference of play style clause and you're fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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    Yllania's Avatar
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    Lolola Lola
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    Diabolos
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Their report wont do anything if its clear they were harassing you
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    JackHatchet's Avatar
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    Naus Prime
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 90
    I don't find emote spam to be harassment. Because emotes are something Square-Enix put into the game, so they deem them acceptable language. But to each their own.

    Normally when I tank, I tell everyone that I'm the boss and I can pull what I want, and if they don't like it--they can tank, or quit! So you just kicking them without offering the choice is harsher than I would be. So I approve!
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    Zeich's Avatar
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    Zeich Fieltas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Honestly, without more information, no one can really say. What constituted a 'snide remark'? Was it actual rudeness, or was it a case of being too thin-skinned (as we've seen a number of times on the forum)? Without all of the details, this description is kind of one-sided in favor of the OP.

    That being said, if you felt they were being rude/harassing you, a kick is certainly reasonable, especially since the other DPS agreed at very least. Likely nothing will come out of it since it probably would fall under "Difference in Gameplay" by GM standards, so even if a report followed, it wouldn't do much.

    I guess when it comes to needing to go to the OF for validation, I take such things with a grain of salt.
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    Sanctify's Avatar
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    Sanctify Ofera
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    Lamia
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    You weren't in the wrong for kicking someone who was being rude. On the same hand, take what they said with a grain of salt and ask yourself "Do I need to work on my pulls/rotation?".
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    Lolola Lola
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackHatchet View Post
    I don't find emote spam to be harassment. Because emotes are something Square-Enix put into the game, so they deem them acceptable language. But to each their own.

    Normally when I tank, I tell everyone that I'm the boss and I can pull what I want, and if they don't like it--they can tank, or quit! So you just kicking them without offering the choice is harsher than I would be. So I approve!
    If youre spamming it to harass someone its reportable. Just like how chat isnt reportable, but using it to insult other players is.
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    Ceridwenae's Avatar
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    Kheeziah Toastie
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JackHatchet View Post
    I don't find emote spam to be harassment. Because emotes are something Square-Enix put into the game, so they deem them acceptable language. But to each their own.
    A few years ago, when I was first trying out the game, I zoned into Ul'Dah and went AFK a few moments whilst doing so. When I came back a lala was emote spamming that godsawful laugh at me. I moved away into the street to figure out what to do next in the game or where to go (I was new, didn't know what I was doing and so on), and the lala followed me, still emote laugh spamming me, and continued to do so, even when I moved further on up the street for a second time. I was flustered, didn't know what to do, but my husband advised reporting them, and for me to zone to X aetheryte, so that's what I did. A little less than an hour later, I had a GM contact me in game to check up and see if I was okay. They were very kind and understanding, and though I don't recall exactly what was said, I do remember being told that sort of behaviour was not condoned. I imagine, though I don't think they told me, the GM then went to find the offending popoto, and hopefully put it out of its misery for a short spell. Though I actually just unsubbed not long afterwards as it didn't give me the best impression of the game, amongst other things and despite the kindly intervention of the GM - though I admit that unsub was mostly because I hadn't finished up with GW2 at the time and FFXIV and I were not at a place where we could yet meet in the middle.

    So... no, just because an emote is in-game, doesn't mean it's okay to use it to abuse someone else, or that a report for emote harassment will be ignored.
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by XgungraveX View Post
    I haven't tank in a min, I pull a mob that could be avoided and then it started. They consent laugh at you emotes and the snide remarks about my rotation. At this point I have no said a word why this is happening. So I got fed up before the second boss and vote to kick for harassment. Apperly the other dps agreed and he was kicked from group. He friend call us both idiots and said reported for false boot then left. We re qued and beat dungeon. My point stands he was rude and I didn't say one word.
    Golden not only that more than likely them and their friend likely got in some trouble for making false reports about unfair boots.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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