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    yeah, there was a thread that talk about this long time ago. it still baffled me why they cant do it, if anything it would promote their game even more. some of the newcomer just rush through things because story is boring, gameplay is brain dead, everything is boring pre50 yadayada. showing them all the available skills should motivate them.

    on funny side, i would probably crying and laughing at the same time seeing my Fire 4/Foul ability explode in glorious way while doing a measly hundred damage lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    yeah, there was a thread that talk about this long time ago. it still baffled me why they cant do it, if anything it would promote their game even more. some of the newcomer just rush through things because story is boring, gameplay is brain dead, everything is boring pre50 yadayada. showing them all the available skills should motivate them.

    on funny side, i would probably crying and laughing at the same time seeing my Fire 4/Foul ability explode in glorious way while doing a measly hundred damage lol
    You wont be the only one lol glad someone else see it the same way as me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Roulettes don't reward moogle tomes anyway. You're only rewarded for exactly the instances with the icon.
    They do if you get the marked instances in the roulette. And they happen to be the ones I'm stuck with the most.
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    No. If you want your "full" rotation, do the high level content (or go unsynced).

    It would not hurt anyone to let us use all skills in low level duties.

    Will it hurt balance in these lower lvl duties? Of course it will, but who cares really,
    That's quite possibly the quickest backpedaling I've ever seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    yeah, there was a thread that talk about this long time ago. it still baffled me why they cant do it, if anything it would promote their game even more. some of the newcomer just rush through things because story is boring, gameplay is brain dead, everything is boring pre50 yadayada. showing them all the available skills should motivate them.

    on funny side, i would probably crying and laughing at the same time seeing my Fire 4/Foul ability explode in glorious way while doing a measly hundred damage lol
    While I can respect the fact that you feel that way about the story. I have someone in my FC who just remade a character from scratch so he could go back and enjoy every aspect of it because the person who brought him into the game had tried to rush him through story and he didn't get a good feel for it. For some people. The story is the draw. Everything else is just icing. Yes, this is an mmo but it is also a final fantasy game. Final Fantasy has always been known for an exceptional story and 14 is no different in that regard.

    As for the topic at hand. Would it be nice to have all of our skills when we sync down? Yes, absolutely. However this would be a logistical nightmare on a programming side of things. It's easy for us as players to sit here and say oh this should be so easy to do, but the reality of it is that, coding, programming, debugging, and server load concerns all factor into this at a minimum, it is a massive amount of effort, time, and money, as well as personnel resources to implement a system like this.

    As a final note, someone mentioned new game +, and ultimately this is a system that could allow a lot of us to go back and help newer players at our current power level, however we still have very little information on new game + it's something i keep waiting for them to address with each passing live letter. Hopefully at e3 we will hear more about it now that the trust system has been sufficiently explained.
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    While I can respect the fact that you feel that way about the story
    wut? you mean the story is boring? you got it wrong, i actually love the story, as someone who come from anime and mostly story oriented game (jrpg, vn, etc) the story is the main reason why i play this game. i said the story is boring is because that what most people said when they ask about FF14... "game is good, friendly, but the story is boring until you reach HW" is what the answer i got everytime i see someone asking hows FF14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    wut? you mean the story is boring? you got it wrong, i actually love the story, as someone who come from anime and mostly story oriented game (jrpg, vn, etc) the story is the main reason why i play this game. i said the story is boring is because that what most people said when they ask about FF14... "game is good, friendly, but the story is boring until you reach HW" is what the answer i got everytime i see someone asking hows FF14.
    ahhh well my bad for the misunderstanding. I apologize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    How will it make it worse to them?
    If anything it will work on their imagination to see max lvl someone using all these fancy spells and how fun it looks, there will be a ton of newbies who will get excited to lvl up and try the new skills out in dungeons at least it will give them a goal to follow up, but they will not be able to unless they will hit 70-80 lvl in which they could play roulettes in duties on that lvl. Right now there is nothing they could see how the jobs are working at max lvl, and they are just dropping the game since they dont see the point of lvling up. There are too many people dropping the game before they hit certain lvl to get enjoyment from, stretching out their journey from 70 lvl to 80 lvls and force them to wait longer for their full kit of skills is not good thing at all. There is a reason why new jobs are starting at lvl 50 and why GNB and DNC will start at lvl 60.
    It's simple: most people don't think that getting carried is fun. Seeing fancy animations you don't have access to yet won't change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    It's simple: most people don't think that getting carried is fun. Seeing fancy animations you don't have access to yet won't change that.
    I dont think newbies would care for however they did the duty.
    Going through a lvl 1-40 dungeons is the definition of bore not something you would enjoy, unless they will let us use everything we have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    No. If you want your "full" rotation, do the high level content (or go unsynced).

    That's quite possibly the quickest backpedaling I've ever seen.
    Game is there to give you fun, not for being "balanced" for the sake of just being "balanced", its just old content PVE who cares?
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 06-04-2019 at 10:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    I dont think newbies would care for however they did the duty.
    Going through a lvl 1-40 dungeons is the definition of bore not something you would enjoy, unless they will let us use everything we have.
    The official forums have a tendency of completly blowing this out of proportion. Even when new players actually come and say for themselves that they didn't think it was that bad, the forums will go "NO! You are wrong! I'm telling you that you are bored and it's the worst and you want to be done with it as soon as possible!"

    Whatever the case, I hope you understand that getting carried only adds to the "boredom" you are describing, as you drastically reduce the amount of participation from that new player. Speeding them through the content only devaluates it. It doesn't make it better in any way. This is how you lose players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Game is there to give you fun, not for being "balanced" for the sake of just being "balanced", its just old content PVE who cares?
    Again, new players care. They are experiencing this for the first time, and you want to reap them from that first experience because you don't deem it interesting and you want yours rewards quicker.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 06-04-2019 at 10:26 PM.

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