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    The (true) Forbidden Land, Eureka

    It was mentioned in the Eureka quests that the region they've dubbed "Eureka" is actually the former Island of Val, which holds the Baldesian Arsennel and the Primal entity known as "Eureka". However, it was also mentioned that Eureka was named as such as an homage to the legend of of the Allagan stockpile of legendary weapons under the Syrcus Tower.
    Playing on this further, any astute FF3 fan would know that at no point in Anemos/Pyros/Pagos/Hydatos does the actual themesong of "Forbidden Land, Eureka" from FF3 play, save for the first few notes when entering a NM FATE or when an NM FATE is won. Moreover, the overworld theme that plays when in a Eureka instance is simply a remix of the normal FATE theme (listen @24seconds).

    Do you guys think we may get Eureka as the relic quest in 5.0/public dungeon, or will it be the 71 MSQ dungeon? The 5.0's PotD/HoH? Personally, since we are returning to the Crystal Tower before entering The First, I can see the level 71 area either being Eureka beneath the Crystal Tower, or it being our first dungeon that takes us to The First.
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    Possibly but in one of the interviews I believe Yoshi P said they went with Val being 'Eureka' because they figured they weren't going to actually get the chance to do the other Eureka? Actually take that with a pound of salt I'll need to track down the interview and refresh myself on what was actually said, it may have been that they made Eureka Val because otherwise they didn't know when they would be able to work Val in and it was left hanging since ARR patches.

    On one hand this could fit well given the importance of the crystal tower, on the other I'm not sure they would want to call it Eureka again so quickly. And we don't know if they're adding new zones for the relic or not yet, or doing something more like ARR/HW.
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    I'll repeat my suggestion/headcannon from forever ago;

    Deep Dungeon Eureka, using Saint Coinach's Find as a hub, with a selection of the bosses being various FFVII Weapons. XIV Eureka is where the Allagan kept their Ultimate Weapons...

    I get the feeling the Primal Eureka has done away with any such possibility at this point though, sadly... I'd love a remix of the Forbidden Lands music... Who knows, maybe the first dungeon of Shadowbringers has us going below Crystal Tower?
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    There is a Eureka under the Crystal Tower. And it is where the Allagans stored the weapons Eureka, the primal, made. However, as far as we know, no one knows where under the Crystal Tower that storeroom is. For all we know it could be in a room blocked off by the Crystal Tower sinking in the 4th Umbral Calalmity and then being raised in the 7th Umbral Calalmtiy. But, we just don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I'll repeat my suggestion/headcannon from forever ago;

    Deep Dungeon Eureka, using Saint Coinach's Find as a hub, with a selection of the bosses being various FFVII Weapons. XIV Eureka is where the Allagan kept their Ultimate Weapons...

    I get the feeling the Primal Eureka has done away with any such possibility at this point though, sadly... I'd love a remix of the Forbidden Lands music... Who knows, maybe the first dungeon of Shadowbringers has us going below Crystal Tower?
    Making it into the next deep dungeon could actually be really neat. Though I doubt they're going to give it a lot of unique models for Weapon bosses from prior games, they could throw in ultima beast/ultima weapon reskins a bit. Maybe Omega Weapon as the final boss at the end.
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    It could be the "next" Eureka... or maybe it has something to do with the sixth zone of Shadowbringers...

    Who knows...? Might not even be implemented ever and exist as just a lore thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Making it into the next deep dungeon could actually be really neat. Though I doubt they're going to give it a lot of unique models for Weapon bosses from prior games, they could throw in ultima beast/ultima weapon reskins a bit. Maybe Omega Weapon as the final boss at the end.
    Would be neat! Vegnagun could also be an option, if it's not used for a raid at some point.
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    Lot of options for "weapons".

    Warmech
    Proud Clad
    Giant of Babil
    Emerald Weapon/Ruby Weapon/Sapphire Weapon/Jade Weapon/Zirconade Weapon/Diamond Weapon
    Black Waltz
    etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    It could be the "next" Eureka... or maybe it has something to do with the sixth zone of Shadowbringers...
    The Job Actions trailer plays a song that's a mashup of FFXIV's extended Syrcus Tower theme and the "Allagan" leitmotif featured in the Azys Lla/Shinryu/Omega themes. If that's not the theme for a new Allagan zone or instance, I'll shave my tail.


    And it's already canon that the guy we sealed in Syrcus Tower had a hunch as to where the Allagans' Eureka was...
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