Thread: 5.0 Raid Eden NPC: Gaia

Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier

I liked an idea I read a week or two ago about Eden being bringing the different elemental-aspected aethers back into the First and the raid bosses being the Four Fiends from FF1.

Kracken and Tiamat have been used, not sure about the other two, but the FF IV fiends could potentially work better maybe. I like the idea in general though I wonder how they would divy up four elemental fiends across three raid tiers of 4 bosses. I suppose at least then they wouldn't have to make one of them a dungeon boss like the four lords.

Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

Kracken and Tiamat have been used, not sure about the other two, but the FF IV fiends could potentially work better maybe. I like the idea in general though I wonder how they would divy up four elemental fiends across three raid tiers of 4 bosses. I suppose at least then they wouldn't have to make one of them a dungeon boss like the four lords.

But but... there are 6 elements, who would be the Ice and Lightning representatives?

Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier

I liked an idea I read a week or two ago about Eden being bringing the different elemental-aspected aethers back into the First and the raid bosses being the Four Fiends from FF1.

We had a whole Raid serie with classic FF bosses, I'd really be happy if we switched to a full original story / original set of bosses. I know they said it has a "real final fantasy feeling to it" but I hope it does not mean more FF references.

About the only thing we know about Eden is from the teaser webpage. That it sits in the Empty, which has already been flooded with light.
There's an image of a single plant in a vast wasteland; regardless of what else happens, I'd assume the story is us restoring life to the area.
. . .
Other than that, we'll just have to see the first tier to know if we're mostly referencing the book of Genesis, or mostly referencing FF8.

bringing life to the world, a sapling (yggdrasil), (garden of) eden, collecting the 6 (8? once you consider astral/umbral) elements, a possibility of mana collection coming west...

Seeing as how Nomura drew this and Yoshi-p was specifically "Ah but we don't have someone who uses hammers!" makes me feel that this is going to be our Geomancer.

They screen this stuff far in advance and for them to secure Nomura, have him draw this character, then overlook the fact we don't have a hammer user job? Seems super fishy.

I'm betting it'll be our segway into a job like Geomancer possibly for 6.0 or maybe even cramming it in like Ninja potentially at the end of the expac.

Originally Posted by Mansion

We had a whole Raid serie with classic FF bosses, I'd really be happy if we switched to a full original story / original set of bosses. I know they said it has a "real final fantasy feeling to it" but I hope it does not mean more FF references.

I don't mind if there are more FF references, but I would prefer it not be, say, almost every single boss like Omega was. I don't mind callbacks to other games but the way the Omega raids just crammed in bosses without having to recontextualize them in FFXIV's world felt kinda lazy.

I don't mind it so much doing it ONCE. It gave us some fun moments like the phantom train. But really don't want another raid handled in the way Omega was.

So, hum, her legs... She has two knees but four calves on that artwork, and I can't unsee this.

If the four fiends are in it then just have the story start out with a princess getting kidnapped in another part of the first world that we have not been to yet and have to go save her form a guy who relay just want to knock us all down....Yes ff14 has just been one big prequel to ff1 and explains where the flying doodad the wol came from Instead of just thin air..... A hole other world.