WoW this, WoW that: Why are FFXIV forum users so obsessed with WoW refugees?

[Naoki34]

For some people not playing WOW is a kind of nobility title.

But a majority of people who feel comfortable with this idea, have played WOW.

Let's be more hypocritical.

[Darsien]

Kinda funny. The real toxicity is trying to pin everything from valid criticism and gameplay suggestions to attitudes and approaches on "WoW refugees." As if playing a game somehow taints someone's soul. As if you can't be a FFXIV player if you've played another game. Instead, being "x player that plays FFXIV." That sort of generalization breeds nothing but negativity and contempt, which is clearly seen in this thread.

Do suppose it'd be hard for some of the people here to accept that they have their own brand of toxicity that they're peddling though. Asking someone to not afk for half an instance is one thing, but asking someone to acknowledge their unhealthy venting of personal bias to cover up the negativity that exists in FFXIV? Now that's a doozy. As I recall, there are enough instances of truly toxic behavior, such as doxing and death threats, that I need more than 2 hands to count them. What of those? Especially the ones before the supposed influx of WoW players?

Wonder what would happen if the convenient scapegoat of WoW was removed? Wonder who would be to blame. Guess we'll see, because a new expansion should draw those "refugees" away, right?

Looking forward to the future toxicity people spread in this thread, and in game, while trying to claim "it's not us, it's them!" while in this pose:

[ADVSS]

Kinda funny. The real toxicity is trying to pin everything from valid criticism and gameplay suggestions to attitudes and approaches on "WoW refugees." As if playing a game somehow taints someone's soul. As if you can't be a FFXIV player if you've played another game. Instead, being "x player that plays FFXIV." That sort of generalization breeds nothing but negativity and contempt, which is clearly seen in this thread.

Do suppose it'd be hard for some of the people here to accept that they have their own brand of toxicity that they're peddling though. Asking someone to not afk for half an instance is one thing, but asking someone to acknowledge their unhealthy venting of personal bias to cover up the negativity that exists in FFXIV? Now that's a doozy. As I recall, there are enough instances of truly toxic behavior, such as doxing and death threats, that I need more than 2 hands to count them. What of those? Especially the ones before the supposed influx of WoW players?

Wonder what would happen if the convenient scapegoat of WoW was removed? Wonder who would be to blame. Guess we'll see, because a new expansion should draw those "refugees" away, right?

Looking forward to the future toxicity people spread in this thread, and in game, while trying to claim "it's not us, it's them!" while in this pose:

Personally, you can earn great experience from coming from other MMO's especially with tropes from a similar role system such as WOW.
The only issue I have is when its like "we need a druid/shaman/warlock/necromancer/deathknight in this game, because WOW does"
At that point, I go "No, this is a Final Fantasy, they don't exist"

[linayar]

Personally, you can earn great experience from coming from other MMO's especially with tropes from a similar role system such as WOW.
The only issue I have is when its like "we need a druid/shaman/warlock/necromancer/deathknight in this game, because WOW does"
At that point, I go "No, this is a Final Fantasy, they don't exist"

Well, this is a Final Fantasy, and they can exist, though whether they should is another matter.

[ADVSS]

Well, this is a Final Fantasy, and they can exist, though whether they should is another matter.

I wont complain if they are additions, in this game universe, but even GNB is spreading the franchise a bit, but believable. Point is the franchise has a long history, and this game collects/attracts many people who are either new to mmo's but love the classic FF jobs/lore/nostalgia. as well as people who pick this up as "another mmo that got good reviews" There are people that play this game for numerous various reasons, but i guess the best description of people who compare this game to WoW and ask for WoW features, and the die hard fanatics of the series,is that they both are "super fans" in their regard. It doesnt mean either side is right or wrong, but they're both obviously rooting for a team. metaphorically
This can sound totally shallow, after reading it over, but i cant really change the wording to feel better, its just something I noticed. Obviously Im a fan of the franchise, so I will definitely butt heads with people who just think its another mmo that got good reciews. ButI understand they have insight i might not have, and can provide incredible ideas especialliy on these forums to how previous or other develepers/desogners fixed or avoided issues we have or face with this game entirely/ Tp those outsiders, thank you, for bringing a new perspective into the fold some of us wouldnt even consider.

[Maximuz]

I think they don't want WOW players to come over, start complaining en masse and the devs accidently change things to suit the tastes of WOW players and alienate the FF14 lovers. I think the current dev team will not make this mistake