YoshiP seems to confuse difficulty with tediousness

[AreeyaJaidee]

This is why I didn't level any job higher than 30, before the patch. So I could progress with the advanced job quests as intended instead of rushing through it at a high level with amazing gear.




(p.s. I'm not saying that my way is better/worse than having lots of jobs at 50 already; there's pros and cons to both. My cons include the fact that it'll still be a while before I can experience the awesomeness of the primal battles and all the high-level stuff in this patch!)

Sounds like denial...

JK :3
/huggles

[Ryuko]

Put it into perspective, people. If you had a group of 75's doing AF quests in XI, it would be seen as THIS EASY (too easy) too.

The fact that AF was released long after MOST people have at least one 50 (and the majority of those have multiple of those) makes it look like the AF quests are crazy easy. Granted, you need to BE 50 to flag the AF quest, but most people starting the game after these quests were introduced will have to sit through the slow, steady progression of class quests AND job quests.

I always found it interesting how class quests stopped at 36. I wanted something BEYOND that. Now it all makes sense. When you're actually leveling a job, 5 levels can feel like a 'long time' and quests to obtain different abilities/gear can also feel like a 'long time'. It seems like every time I see a new patch come out for any MMO, many people complain about how 'easy' it was. Well yeah... if it's not designed for strictly endgame content, it's going to be easy to an extent... especially when EVERYONE is running around doing it at the same time.

In a few weeks, when 'doing job quests' is not the hot new thing, it will be harder to find people to help you because there won't be dozens of people standing conveniently around the job quest NPC.

[Wolfie]

Put it into perspective, people. If you had a group of 75's doing AF quests in XI, it would be seen as THIS EASY (too easy) too.

I know one person just soloed my AF and limit break quests in FFXI, and then I soloed them for myself again while leveling my other jobs. People just don't know how to take a step back and think about what they're really saying and doing.

[Ryuko]

I know one person just soloed my AF and limit break quests in FFXI, and then I soloed them for myself again while leveling my other jobs. People just don't know how to take a step back and think about what they're really saying and doing.

Yep, I completely agree. When I played FFXI (back when the cap was 75), I soloed most of my coffer keys, and many other things that could be soloed for my other jobs. Anything else, all I needed was one or two other people to help me. The reason people see it differently is because AF quests existed when we started playing XI. They didn't with XIV. I don't know when they were introduced in XI compared to the JP release (approximately one year before NA release), but that would be some food for thought, too.

[Wolfie]

Yep, I completely agree. When I played FFXI (back when the cap was 75), I soloed most of my coffer keys, and many other things that could be soloed for my other jobs. Anything else, all I needed was one or two other people to help me. The reason people see it differently is because AF quests existed when we started playing XI. They didn't with XIV. I don't know when they were introduced in XI compared to the JP release (approximately one year before NA release), but that would be some food for thought, too.

FFXI's AF and limit was released with RoZ as part of the leveling experience (cap before RoZ was 50, AF starts at 52 iirc).

As someone who just restarted and doesn't have any 50's, I'm getting a similar experience out of the job quests in FFXIV as I did from AF in FFXI.

[Elexia]

Know what I did at 99 cap? I soloed all of the gods but Kirin. Was tedious work~

I soloed CoP from 1 - 8.4...so tedious.

I soloed all of my AF, Relic and Empyrean AF + 1~2. Tedious, Tedious!

I soloed all Limit breaks (but 10 and Maat stye fights) for new players, so, so tedious.

[Klive]

Ok, lets add two months to our timeline, so May, making the jobs have been out for awhile. Lets say this is your first 45. Now try to do these quests for the gear and final job battle WITHOUT EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER trying to get them done at the same time. Unless you have a really caring LS, good lucky building a party to help with that Dragoon final battle. I was able to get my black mage quest line done due to that fact every step of the way, I had 40+ people doing the same quest.

This content was made for the new player to work up to and be a rite of passage.

[Vanguard319]

last WAR fight is beyond brutal, all I'm gonna say.

[Griss]

I don't know about tediousness. I do things with other people and always have a blast.

Tl:dr? Blackmage don't give a damn.

[KiraAmane]

Idk what people are complaining about. We have been 5 or 6 manning all of the jobs. 6/7 jobs, in 24 hours. O.o