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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valavaern View Post
    We're ABSOLUTELY being punished for using Engagement to stay in place.
    Prior to learning Engagement, Displacement is 150 potency. On a smaller arena, you cannot Displace at all. On a larger arena, you can Displace for 150 potency.

    After learning Engagement, Engagement is 150 potency and Displacement is increased to 200 potency. On a smaller arena, you can Engage for 150 potency. On a larger arena, you can Displace for 200 potency.

    The idea that Engagement's potency is a punishment is flawed. It results strictly in improvements. In one subset of scenarios, the potency goes up by 150. In the complementary subset of scenarios, the potency goes up by 50. There is no subset of scenarios where the potency goes down.
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    Davion Valavaern
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Prior to learning Engagement, Displacement is 150 potency. On a smaller arena, you cannot Displace at all. On a larger arena, you can Displace for 150 potency.

    After learning Engagement, Engagement is 150 potency and Displacement is increased to 200 potency. On a smaller arena, you can Engage for 150 potency. On a larger arena, you can Displace for 200 potency.

    The idea that Engagement's potency is a punishment is flawed. It results strictly in improvements. In one subset of scenarios, the potency goes up by 150. In the complementary subset of scenarios, the potency goes up by 50. There is no subset of scenarios where the potency goes down.
    I understand that's what the intent is, my argument is that it's a bad intent. Forcing a huge movement like that to maximize DPS doesn't feel good. If it was a good idea, Repelling Shot would still do damage.
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    Markov Dracul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Prior to learning Engagement, Displacement is 150 potency. On a smaller arena, you cannot Displace at all. On a larger arena, you can Displace for 150 potency.

    After learning Engagement, Engagement is 150 potency and Displacement is increased to 200 potency. On a smaller arena, you can Engage for 150 potency. On a larger arena, you can Displace for 200 potency.

    The idea that Engagement's potency is a punishment is flawed. It results strictly in improvements. In one subset of scenarios, the potency goes up by 150. In the complementary subset of scenarios, the potency goes up by 50. There is no subset of scenarios where the potency goes down.
    If you are forced to use a lesser potency move for a higher potency move it's punishment not rewarding. Same goes for positionals. Maybe it's a glass half full / glass half empty scenario, but most people see a potency loss not as a reward for doing good but a punishment for playing bad.
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