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    Krojack's Avatar
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    Avellin Adorel
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    No Irregular Tomestone of Philosophy if you join party in progress

    So now we're encouraging people to turn the Join Party in Progress off because if you just happened to get this on one of the very few available dungeons that Irregular Tomestones are available for, you won't get any Irregular Tomestone.

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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    They do this because if two people queue for something, they can guarantee a vote kick will go through and let a third friend of theirs snipe the instance. If each of them take turns, that's one less dungeon they have to run for every three.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    People should be rewarded for enabling Join Party in Progress. Need more people turning it on, not off.

    Log vote kicks and tell the person who was kicked what was selected as the reason and give them an option to report it as false. Start punishing people for abusing the kick system.
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    People should be rewarded for enabling Join Party in Progress. Need more people turning it on, not off.

    Log vote kicks and tell the person who was kicked what was selected as the reason and give them an option to report it as false. Start punishing people for abusing the kick system.
    "Difference in playstyle" is a valid reason for kick. If they don't say anything in the game about it, it's assumed they're kicked for that reason. GMs won't do anything about it.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    "Difference in playstyle" is a valid reason for kick. If they don't say anything in the game about it, it's assumed they're kicked for that reason. GMs won't do anything about it.
    If that's a valid reason then it needs to be added to the selection for reasons to kick. If you're doing everything your class should be doing then that isn't a valid reason to kick someone.
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    Honestly ever since I found out we can get these tomes doing stone vigil with your squadren I've actually started trying to collect them.
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    Gralya Arodica
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    It says right on the website for the event that joining in progress won't reward you the event tomestones.

    Also, with revised TOS don't think "difference in playstyle" is a valid reason for vote kick anymore.

    ◆Obstruction of play
    "Obstruction of play" means all behaviour in general that obstructs another person's game play. Below is a non-exhaustive list of examples of obstruction of play:

    ・Spamming
    This means using chat (including Quick Chat and Emote) to obstruct another person's conversation, or obstruct the use of mog letters, etc., for example, by sending an excessive number of unnecessary items in mog letters, etc. Even if obstruction was not the objective of the behaviour, it may be deemed a violation if another player is actually obstructed by the behaviour.

    ・Obstructing transit/progress
    This means obstructive behaviour such as group blocking of passages or facilities along which many players pass or obstructing another person's game play progress, for example by overlapping an important NPC deliberately for a long time.

    Improper expulsion voting
    This means excluding another person by manipulation of expulsion voting.


    ・Intentional leaving or disconnection
    This means obstructing another person's game play by intentionally leaving the game or disconnecting from the server.

    ・Other obstruction of play
    This means all other behaviour that deliberately obstructs another person's game play by some means.
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    Last edited by Gralna; 06-02-2019 at 10:32 AM.

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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    They do this because if two people queue for something, they can guarantee a vote kick will go through and let a third friend of theirs snipe the instance. If each of them take turns, that's one less dungeon they have to run for every three.
    Actually they'd still have to be waiting, so they aren't actually saving any time.

    And the system could pick up this behavior anyways and deal punishment. Yes, playstyle difference is a reason, but kicking every single dungeon run of the same dungeon and having that friend mysteriously join every time is going to set red flags off on the system REAL quick.
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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 90
    I was queued for Syrcus Tower and World of Darkness last night with my partner and literally every time it was ready someone would cancel, which happened roughly 3-4 times before we finally got it. Lots of people want the end rewards of content without doing it, so that's specifically to avoid lazy, greedy people who just want the tomes and don't want to spend 20 minutes getting them.
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    Amethyst Loire
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 55
    Why even do this stuff? Don't torture yourself with this dumb event. Just get a party together and go to diadem. You want that pegasus mount, right? Seriously you can earn it in 2-3 hours easy.
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