[Feedback] More Glamour Plates or More Areas to Apply Glamour Plates?

[Blueyes]

Q7: Do you have plans to add a system that would allow gear converted to glamour to be used using the previous glamour method without the use of a plate?

A7: We’re currently receiving a lot of calls to our Support Center from players saying they converted the wrong gear. Converted gear aren’t gone completely, they can still be used as glamour.

We may change or adjust the point on how it cannot be used as normal gear; however, there’s still the issue about inventory size, so we haven’t decided on this yet.

We’re also developing a system that’ll allow glamouring directly using the items stored inside the dresser.

Q8: Do you have plans to increase the amount of items that can be stored inside the glamour dresser, or add more glamour plates?

A8: This will increase the amount of data passed through the network, so we’re discussing where we can increase and make this possible. To increase the areas in which the plates can be applied, or to increase the amount of plates, we need to choose one, and we’re currently thinking to increase the number of plates available.

We’re carefully looking at everyone’s data, so we would like to make adjustments while maintaining a good balance.

Quotes from the Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XLII Update Thread.

Pertaining to Q8 in particular, I'm interesting in collecting feedback. Between choosing to expand the number of areas glamour plates can be applied (such as outside of town) and choosing to increase the total number of plates available, which would the community prefer? Ideally, it would be nice to see both, but if restricting to choosing one or other, as described in the answer provided, what would people choose?

The reason why I quote Q7 here is because I think it's important to take note of their plans to allow glamouring directly using the items stored inside the dresser which is independent of their choice of what to do about plates. Considering their plans to make glamour items within the dresser no longer require the use of a plate to be applied, I think that helps to alleviate the strain of having only ten plates. However, this planned change won't alleviate the concerns of players who simply need more plates.

[Rockette]

Honestly, I feel like no one asked for a new system with How we glamour items. A glamour catalogue with sets and the ability to have different glamours applied to the same piece was all that was asked for.

I know they're working on building this current over-complicated "system" but its just such a mess from the base up.

[Hasrat]

Have you considered that a supposed glamour catalogue would have been unfeasible under their data restraints?

"Sure, we'll give you the catalogue. But you can still only catalogue 200 items."

[Rockette]

Have you considered that a supposed glamour catalogue would have been unfeasible under their data restraints?

"Sure, we'll give you the catalogue. But you can still only catalogue 200 items."

They seem to have gathering and crafting catalogues just fine. Pretty sure there's more than 200 items in those.

Doesn't mean you have to have the item on you, could just be a tick box like they have in the gathering logs. Have you had this before yes/no. If yes, you can use Glamour Wardrobe assistant to order it in. If no, unlock item first.

Doesn't seem too unfeasible.

[Dualgunner]

Have you considered that a supposed glamour catalogue would have been unfeasible under their data restraints?

"Sure, we'll give you the catalogue. But you can still only catalogue 200 items."

Yeah. A log with a bunch of items that have true/false statements attached to them would be too difficult for them to do. What? The fishing log? The crafting log? The gathering log? Those don't count.

[Hasrat]

Yeah. A log with a bunch of items that have true/false statements attached to them would be too difficult for them to do. What? The fishing log? The crafting log? The gathering log? Those don't count.

Not really, considering those are built into the system to begin with. They're data that's expected to be attached to the player. A glamour log, for every item in the game, exceeding all those other logs, isn't already planned for, and so would be a significant chunk of data to carry around everywhere.

It's like you just assume these don't come at a cost. DoL logs exist because they've planned for and allotted that data. Glamour logs don't exist because that's more data than they can presently allot to characters.

Not saying I perfectly understand the system, or am even certain of the veracity of these claims. But I do kinda feel that if it were supposedly so easy, surely it would've been done. There's more at play here than "just do it already."

[Dualgunner]

Not really, considering those are built into the system to begin with. They're data that's expected to be attached to the player. A glamour log, for every item in the game, exceeding all those other logs, isn't already planned for, and so would be a significant chunk of data to carry around everywhere.

Then glam log should have been built in for the system to begin with. The glamour system from the start was a mess, and this isn't fixing it any. From the start it should have been a glamour log that they could have built on just like they've built on the DoH and DoL logs.

It's like you just assume these don't come at a cost. DoL logs exist because they've planned for and allotted that data. Glamour logs don't exist because that's more data than they can presently allot to characters.

Okay, let's talk costs. I'll gladly get rid of the fishing log entirely, along with all the useless fish in the game (differentiating from the useful fish; I mean the useless fish that have no value to anything whatsoever) for a glamour log instead.

Surely lugging around that I caught a carpenter crab into a dungeon is unnecessary.

Not saying I perfectly understand the system, or am even certain of the veracity of these claims. But I do kinda feel that if it were supposedly so easy, surely it would've been done. There's more at play here than "just do it already."

I'm sure it's not so easy as "just do it already". But there is definitely "stop running in circles trying to play monkey's paw with the playerbase."

"Can we color chocobos?"
"Yes"
"YAY"
"Through a needlessly convoluted system that in effect probably puts more strain on the servers than simply dumping a bucket of paint on the chocobo, conveniences nobody, and requires a system that grants boons only to home owners."

Which of course, goes back to (and a common complaint for the dresser in the first place): if you're gonna do it, do it right in the first place.

[Hasrat]

Then glam log should have been built in for the system to begin with.

So, shut down the game for a few months/year+ while they rebuild the game from the ground up?

[Fawkes]

It's absurd to think they'd have to choose one or the other. There is no way it could possibly be an amount of data that should prevent them from letting us do it anywhere. This sounds like another cop-out answer, he should've just said "PS4 limitations".

I was okay with this system under the assumption that they'd improve on it, but if they're saying they can't improve it then just get rid of it. We shouldn't have to choose more plates or more areas. Delete it and try again at making something functional.

[Felis]

It's absurd to think they'd have to choose one or the other. There is no way it could possibly be an amount of data that should prevent them from letting us do it anywhere. This sounds like another cop-out answer, he should've just said "PS4 limitations".

What have the PS4 to do with their servers? They already called it network limitation.
And before PS4 limitations come the 32Bit/Mac limitations (the new inventory UI, as an example)