Thread: Happy Healer in 5.0 thread

Originally Posted by Vulcann

so again you rolled a healer and expected to have amazing DPS?

I mean i am a paladin and i have heal but that doesn't make me a healer. that would be like me going into the expac saying "man wtf Yoshi-P why didn't you give my heal any love! i wanna be a healer that can tank every once in a while"

no if you want to play a DPS that has a heal play a redmage or summoner.

The thing is that 90% of the time you spend is dpsing because the damage is extremely predictable and your ogcd heals are enough (and with shb changes we're getting close to overkill) so what we healers want is to make that 90% of the time engaging and have 1 dps button, 1 aoe and 1 dot in EVERY healer does not help at all, specially in some cases like sch that had twice that number of skills.

We dont want to be DPS with shorter queues, we want to have fun.

Originally Posted by Vulcann

so again you rolled a healer and expected to have amazing DPS?

I mean i am a paladin and i have heal but that doesn't make me a healer. that would be like me going into the expac saying "man wtf Yoshi-P why didn't you give my heal any love! i wanna be a healer that can tank every once in a while"

no if you want to play a DPS that has a heal play a redmage or summoner.

You're missing the point. To date, healing requirements are so low that the majority of a healer's time is spent dpsing. Given this fact, a more interesting dps rotation would have been very welcome.

Originally Posted by Vulcann

so again you rolled a healer and expected to have amazing DPS?

I mean i am a paladin and i have heal but that doesn't make me a healer. that would be like me going into the expac saying "man wtf Yoshi-P why didn't you give my heal any love! i wanna be a healer that can tank every once in a while"

no if you want to play a DPS that has a heal play a redmage or summoner.

Imagine if all you had were Flash and defensive cooldowns. No attacks, no clemency, just a non-damaging ability and tools to mitigate damage. Let's take it a bit further and say Flash gave enough enmity that you could use it once a minute and be good. Would you be happy? Especially on fights that don't require running multiple cooldowns at all times?

Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Imagine if RDM achieved its damage by spamming 121212121212 and only occasionally weaved in a couple oGCDs. Congratulations. You now have what a standard healer rotation looks like. This is what healers are upset about. Unless content hits harder, they're already glorified DPS with boring DPS abilities. What we have seen thus far is more of the same... except even less DPS.

But Red Mage is a job in the DPS role. It will obviously have a more robust DPS rotation.

How does Red Mage's healing kit look?

Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Hence why I purposely said "and only occasionally weaved in a couple oGCDs" because that's how healing currently works. You primarily DPS and weave in a couple oGCDs every once in a while.

You can give healers a thousand different ways to heal. It doesn't mean a thing if they never have to use half of them, which was the whole point.

Do you not think having so many methods to heal opens up encounter damage paradigms?

Originally Posted by Kabooa

Do you not think having so many methods to heal opens up encounter damage paradigms?

Unfortunately, there's only so much they can do with that. If they upped outgoing damage significantly enough to really make experienced Healers have to spend most of their time healing, less experienced ones would probably be destroyed. And currently we have basically no evidence that encounter design is changing significantly. It's a huge IF, whereas the changes we have now are knowns.