



Well, we got the same 3 chests everyone else has gotten on our 1st morbol attempt and kill. So we will obviously work on speed run next. Your statement is just ignorant
Who wouldn't work on speed run if they had the first 3 chests under their belt?
right, so tell me how your speed run attempts work without optimization of strategy. i'll be here all week.


How about you go back to proper tone of respect? Nobody was attacking you, though you chime back as if someone did. Just chill out. Daeva did Speed Runs on everything so far (DH SR5C, Ifrit, Moogle) and they will do Aurum Vale and Cutter'y Cry as well, so what's your point? He wasn't talking about strategies for SR5C...he was talking about being able to kill the boss in general.
Well theres some things you can do to optimize.
Morbol fight for instance doesn't like BLM's that much. Slugs that spawn are heavily resistant to magic damage and sleep so if you don't take care of them one way or another they'll start silencing you good. That was our largest problems since we went very heavy BLM, and won the very first attempt we changed to more melee centric damage classes in a breeze.
Full ARC/BRD dps on the fight is also.... slowish. They are great for taking care of Roses and Slugs but their overall damage is lower than MNK (on that particular fight by a lot) and DRG now. Its very safe win however if you aren't going for a speed run.
So to increase the kill time from say 3-4 regen phases down to 2 regen phases you might want to go with a set up closer to 2 MNK, 1 DRG or BLM, 2 BRD/ARC and leave the MNKs and BLM on the Morbol while the others clean up adds. MNK w/ FoF is amazing on Morbol doing 120 a fist, which with ARC doing ~175 that's twice the damage on basic hits alone (1200-1300 howling fists, 800ish DK's, most other WS 400-500 range :: When I noticed besides for QN a lot of the ARC WS's peaked at 400).
Though since Slug are resistant to fire you need to deactivate FoF when killing (if needed) but I think that set up could get Morbol to 35% before he ran for first pool, ~10% on 2nd pool and death shortly after.
Coincollector for instance can also be sped up by abusing stun's. 100-ton swing -> fall, stun at end of fall is a good 15s of free dps time without worrying about what WS he will use next. Though honestly he's pretty quick to begin with, you just can't fail at dodging the swing is the big thing.
Like Carraway said its going to be much more unforgiving than DH was for the 5 chest run so squeezing every few seconds out and having quick and reliable kill strategies will come up big. Since I doubt you'll use vines at all for AV speed run/ 5 chest even missing a heal in the poison at the start can cause you to stop and restart because that poison will kill you if you don't pay attention.
my point is only that carraway was talking about optimization of strats in the context of speed runs. for your LS member to follow that up by specifically referencing carraway's post with "nope, not necessary"- it comes off very strongly as your LS member suggesting either you guys don't care about speed runs *or* speed runs will be so easy that you can just faceroll through it with any old strat.How about you go back to proper tone of respect? Nobody was attacking you, though you chime back as if someone did. Just chill out. Daeva did Speed Runs on everything so far (DH SR5C, Ifrit, Moogle) and they will do Aurum Vale and Cutter'y Cry as well, so what's your point? He wasn't talking about strategies for SR5C...he was talking about being able to kill the boss in general.
my response simply served to agree with him in the case of the former, or sarcastically point out the (theoretical) folly of his statement in the case of the latter. then mog couldn't keep it in his pants, so i lost my "proper tone of respect". dig?
now perhaps we can get back on topic
good shtuff.
Last edited by fusional; 03-12-2012 at 05:06 PM.




Why umad?
I sense some hostility where there needs to be none.
I just said the fight was easy. Then you go gettin' all up in mah grill.
Relax son.
if myriam webster pulled a fast one on me last night and switched the definitions of "sardonic" and "mad" then i suppose my comment was indeed full of mads.




Glad we are on the same page now.
Back to raidin'
cheers! =)




Any good Drops? ^^
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