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    Videra's Avatar
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    Videra Svenay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    its as I said expansion isn't out and people are going to pretend they have played it and giving input before even trying to class after the changes.

    you never know you might like it but instead come here try to make devs change mind when release is already coming soon and expansion is done.

    not going to happen, if they notice bad changes they'll deal with it on their own.
    This is not a valid argument. For examples of why see Blue Mage and 4.0 SCH. Both of them were shit, to begin with, we knew they were going to be shit, and we gave feedback. Sadly, only one of them warranted a response. We have all of the information we need to give constructive feedback at this point in time, and it's -very much- so important that we do as much.
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    Anni Suri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    This is not a valid argument. For examples of why see Blue Mage and 4.0 SCH. Both of them were shit, to begin with, we knew they were going to be shit, and we gave feedback. Sadly, only one of them warranted a response. We have all of the information we need to give constructive feedback at this point in time, and it's -very much- so important that we do as much.
    Yes the more players that main healer can do it the better.
    But people need to have a bit of work to write in a concise form simple with metrics in a new thread called "healer class job 0.5 feedback" or whatever you decide for the post title something with "healer""feedback" and perhaps a post structure like this:

    Positive aspects/advantages:

    ▶ ....;
    ▶ ....;

    Negative aspects/disadvantages:

    ▶ ...;
    ▶ ...;

    Without the use of negative words just pointing out why this one change brings disadvantage for each class, although I think is more productive to see after trying the new content but some players are writing they already know so the faster they give their opinion in a constructive way the faster the community manager can reach SE/dev team with the players concerns.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Meanwhile, using my anecdotal evidence, 100% of the healer mains I know are perfectly fine with the changes and look forward to seeing how the adjustments work in game.
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    Rael Levynfang
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    People need to chill. Everything that was revealed in the media tour laid the foundation for the changes but they're subject to change in the final release. Play the game first at the end of the month before freaking out.
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    People need to chill. Everything that was revealed in the media tour laid the foundation for the changes but they're subject to change in the final release. Play the game first at the end of the month before freaking out.
    Changing potencies and tweaking effects of some skills, yes. They aren't going to suddenly give extra DPS spells to healers or scrap the new card system between media tour and launch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Changing potencies and tweaking effects of some skills, yes. They aren't going to suddenly give extra DPS spells to healers or scrap the new card system between media tour and launch.
    That and I still have nightmares from 4.0 SCH, which was telegraphed just about the same way before launch and everyone told us back then we were overreacting just like they are now. Lo and behold expac drops and SCH's suddenly have immense difficulty healing /normal dungeons/ and SE quickly had to step in to rectify the problem people had been complaining about for months.

    About the only thing we don't know right now is how hard content will hit in ShB. Yet even then it doesn't change some of the core complaints or the fact that ShB very well might only 'hit harder' in the same way Stormblood 'hit harder'. Where it lasted only through the leveling cycle before petering out with a groan once you hit level cap. Likewise I don't need to play ShB to tell you that taking away SCH's one stack dump in the form of Energy Drain is a bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    People need to chill. Everything that was revealed in the media tour laid the foundation for the changes but they're subject to change in the final release. Play the game first at the end of the month before freaking out.
    There aren't going to be sweeping design changes a month before launch when they're already as pressed for time as they seem to be. Some skills may be redesigned(at least by the time Eden comes out) like Shake It Off was, for example, and they might backtrack on some changes, but they won't completely redesign 3+ jobs like some people want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    but they won't completely redesign 3+ jobs like some people want.

    Good, the only class that MOST people agree needs changing is scholar. The rest are fine outside of potency changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamein View Post
    Good, the only class that MOST people agree needs changing is scholar. The rest are fine outside of potency changes.
    The multiple AST/MCH/MNK/WHM/DRK threads would disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The multiple AST/MCH/MNK/WHM/DRK threads would disagree.
    I just took a gander at the MCH megathread and sheesh my heart goes out to MCH mains. If the theory crafting proves true then we're in for another round of 'change the class with each patch' throughout the expansion cycle.
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