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    Kanitezz's Avatar
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    Jubii Io
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90

    Polls: Shadowbringers

    Take the polls for your annoying friend Jubii. The second one is geared more towards healers but of course anyone can take it. You only get to choose one answer on each.

    https://www.strawpoll.me/18080577

    https://www.strawpoll.me/18080591

    Now that someone's pointed out to me how to get pictures to show up here, I'll post the results on here a day before or day of ShB early access. Just to save latecomers the sweat inducing trouble of clicking a link.

    Thank you for your cooperation.

    Edit: I took out my dumb joke because I guess it made people cringe. And I need them to not do that and do the polls instead.

    Edit: I'm posting these early because I need to step away from select spots of the forums. Thanks to everyone who participated.



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    Last edited by Kanitezz; 06-12-2019 at 02:15 AM.

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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I don’t do “single main.”

    I likely will play war and DRG because they are my thing, but looking forward to try the new jobs, and machinist that may as well be a new job now.
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    Burningskull's Avatar
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    Markov Dracul
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I picked DPS cause I want to main DNC. But I'm also excited for GNB.
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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Dps for the first question
    Sch for the second, but to me they look to be equally fun, I think healers are over-exaggerating, you're gonna be fine.
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    Andevom Vonskivaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Dps for the first question
    Sch for the second, but to me they look to be equally fun, I think healers are over-exaggerating, you're gonna be fine.
    Hyperbole on the official forums?! Surely you're joking.
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    This is a bump
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    Shaiden Nightfall
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanitezz View Post
    Take the polls for your annoying friend Jubii. The second one is geared more towards healers but of course anyone can take it. I'm not your momma. You only get to choose one answer on each.

    https://www.strawpoll.me/18080577

    https://www.strawpoll.me/18080591

    Now that someone's pointed out to me how to get pictures to show up here, I'll post the results on here a day before or day of ShB early access. Just to save latecomers the sweat inducing trouble of clicking a link.

    Thank you for your cooperation.
    "im not your mama" made me cringe so hard that i just couldnt bring myself to take it and take this thread seriously.
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    Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    "im not your mama" made me cringe so hard that i just couldnt bring myself to take it and take this thread seriously.
    It made you cringe? I didn't think anyone would even acknowledge it that hard. Don't know why you wouldn't be able to take the polls themselves seriously though. I thought I made them straightforward.
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    Zyneste Azurox
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    The thing with the healer changes isn't really about the need for balance. Its the result of this balance they've achieved thats caused issues.

    Players want:
    1) Healers that can make an impact doing damage, but damage isn't 100% their only focus. They want stuff that keeps from checking out while healing. They want good use of downtime and opportunity to weave useful OGCD abilities.
    2) They want the healers to all be nearly as desirable as one another for raiding.

    SE has made the 2nd one possible at the cost of the 1st.

    The DPS rankings is (and should be):

    PDPS: WHM>>SCH>AST.
    RDPS: AST>SCH>>WHM.

    The problem is that they've cut all the more engaging DPS skills to compensate for button bloat. Namely SCH. In order for SCH to get a more "complex" rotation back they would have to suffer net DPS losses to their other skills to bring in this new skill and this would set the skill ceiling higher again, making the class less desirable to newer players. Yoshi-P wants to try and keep it inclusive. SE cannot buff SCH's DPS kit without causing WHM and AST to become secondary. They will need to do multiple adjustments to keep it fair for new players, complex enough for old players and within the same DPS parameters as it already is.

    [Personally, I think a neat role skill would have been to give each healer a GCD AOE bravery on a short timer of like 30 seconds, just to give them one more thing to manage, and something else to optimize during downtime, but SE is fickle with what they consider to be button bloat.]

    WHM is bringing their new Afflatus lilly mechanic allowing them to actually gain DPS with their use (if properly weaving 3 OGCD abilities between the four casts), SCH is bringing a small bit of RDPs from chain strat and more reliable Broil Spam via fairy upgrades and lots of healing only aetherflow stacks (boo), AST is bringing low personal DPS but still packing cards (even if they have been nerfed to the ground on RDPS, their personal DPS being so close to SCH, but with less uptime lets their RDPS + PDPS closely compare to SCH's 5.0 kit (ideally.)
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    Last edited by Zyneste; 05-31-2019 at 09:24 AM.

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    This is a bump
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