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    Freyyy's Avatar
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Come on is that the only alarming thing about ShB DRK for you ? We don't even see what race/gender it is since it wears a full set of armor on top of being a pitch black shadow. If you were a male Roe I could understand since there's a big difference in body shape/size but it's really far from being the most important issue about the job right now.
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    Reynauld Alejine
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Alternatively, they could keep the coolest thing they've done for DRK yet by keeping Fray as the Living Shadow model. After all the job quests with him and story stuff, being able to actually fight alongside Fray in a non-instanced situation; even if it's only in a form like this; is the best choice thing I've seen yet. I'm glad they made the choice and wouldn't have it any other way; a great way to respect the lore for DRK while adding in a bit of fanservice.
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    Kanitezz's Avatar
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    Jubii Io
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I want to throw somethin else in here too. After a bit of thought I kinda like the idea of Fray always being with you in a way. It hits me in the heart.
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    Last edited by Kanitezz; 06-01-2019 at 12:49 PM.

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    FallenWings's Avatar
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    Xyasreau Borlaaq
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I imagine it's the case of the WoL simply assigning the body of Fray to our darkside since it has probably weakened after revealing its true form in the 50 quest. The darkside had to take on the form of Fray in the earlier levels because it was not strong enough to take on it's own reflection of us until our feelings and disdain became even more intense.

    I'm disappointed as well that our Living Shadow just summons Fray when it should've summoned us but I just assumed of the above reasoning and more likely technical limitations.

    I'm frankly more astonished of the fandom and support of Fray. Clearly showing that people probably didn't really pay attention to the 30-50 story. But I guess that's unsurprising since we also seem to worship Haucherfant and Zenos for whatever reason.
    But perhaps it's more the fault of the devs for not keeping the story consistent and clear. /shrug
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    there is absolutely nothing wrong with Fray being there it does not mess up the narrative of the job quest of Dark knight had.
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    Lugubrious Pan
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    I'm frankly more astonished of the fandom and support of Fray. Clearly showing that people probably didn't really pay attention to the 30-50 story.
    I was very disappointed to find out that the shadow ISN'T us. I thought it would be. People stand by the 70 quests and lore and that's fine. I'm not one to complain about how the story has gone. But I can say I vastly preferred how things were for us in the 30-50 line. It was nice to be so incredibly involved and have some introspection in our character even if it was about the darkness. That being said I was REALLY hoping the shadow we summon was actually us to really capitalise on that.

    But no it's Fray...
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    Emilia Summers
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    Chocobo
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousPan View Post
    But no it's Fray...
    Err Fray is us, did you not read the story? The fray you saw dead at lvl 30 at ishgard has died long ago. The "Fray" we met after it was our inner darkness/shadow a side of us. Lore accuracy the "Fray" we summoned at lvl 80 is actually us it's just probably due to cost and time reason they had to put the generic "Fray" look.
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    Err Fray is us, did you not read the story? The fray you saw dead at lvl 30 at ishgard has died long ago. The "Fray" we met after it was our inner darkness/shadow a side of us. Lore accuracy the "Fray" we summoned at lvl 80 is actually us it's just probably due to cost and time reason they had to put the generic "Fray" look.
    Considering it's Fray's appearance and the same greatsword that Sidurgu tossed to him during the 70 duty, it could easily just be given form based on how the WoL views their darkside, just like how Myst was a manifestation of fallen companions created in the image of Haurchefaunt and Ysayle.

    Regardless, Fray's probably one of the most iconic characters of the DRK's storyline despite being dead long before we encountered him. The simulacrum having his appearance makes sense in that regard.
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    Aurelius2625's Avatar
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    President Obama
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Yo, if it would look like a darker, shadowy-er? version of ourselves in the lvl 80 or lvl 70 DRK gear, that'd be dope AF.
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    Big-Isaac's Avatar
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    J'enna Vale
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    Spriggan
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Meh, summoning Fray makes a lot of sense. That part is fine as is
    What's more disappointing is that this type skill could be the basis for an entire job, but instead it seems to be a glorified DoT that doesn't interact with your gameplay in any way
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